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    Using WST for cat sneeze loads I have to clean the barrel (chamber) frequently with a carbon cleaner. The pressure is so low that the brass doesn’t seal the pressure and the gasses blow back around the cartridge. My chamber got so fouled before I discovered this that it would no longer go into battery. I’m running 200 gr SWCs at 640-650 FPS. The spring is 8 lb. and the action is glass smooth. Function is very reliable as long as it’s kept clean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David2011 View Post
    Using WST for cat sneeze loads I have to clean the barrel (chamber) frequently with a carbon cleaner. The pressure is so low that the brass doesn’t seal the pressure and the gasses blow back around the cartridge. My chamber got so fouled before I discovered this that it would no longer go into battery. I’m running 200 gr SWCs at 640-650 FPS. The spring is 8 lb. and the action is glass smooth. Function is very reliable as long as it’s kept clean.
    Interesting. What charge weight did you use that gave that issue?

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    I’ve also had that issue. I guess turning up the pressure to where that tendency just disappears would be ideal.

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    4.3gr of greendot.
    This is our target load for 9mm,40cal and 45acp.

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    I had similar issue when I went too low with Red Dot.

    I did not have the chamber carbon buildup. But the first 8 rounds all had cases that were soot halfway back.
    Went up half a grain and no more sooty cases.

    Yes you can go too low sometimes.

    I think a lot depends on the size of the case and weight of the bullet.

    As my .32sw long shooting 90 gr cast over 2 grains of Red Dot has no issues at all, and is accurate.
    About as quiet as a .22lr and virtually no recoil or blast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tazman View Post
    Interesting. What charge weight did you use that gave that issue?
    The load is 3.7 grains of Titegroup. I built the 1911 for steel plate matches but not Steel Challenge where there is a minimum muzzle velocity. The brass barely clears the ejection port and a few have landed on my hand. They are just warm; not enough powder to get hot. There is a tiny amount of recoil but I don't feel it when shooting. The carbon only got bad after many hundreds of rounds of conventionally lubed boolits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David2011 View Post
    The load is 3.7 grains of Titegroup. I built the 1911 for steel plate matches but not Steel Challenge where there is a minimum muzzle velocity. The brass barely clears the ejection port and a few have landed on my hand. They are just warm; not enough powder to get hot. There is a tiny amount of recoil but I don't feel it when shooting. The carbon only got bad after many hundreds of rounds of conventionally lubed boolits.
    I have a friend that uses that exact load and loves it. He uses factory made H&G 68 SWC boolits. He also uses decreased weight recoil springs to ensure function. I don't know the weight.
    Personally, I have never gone that low with Titegroup. I load 4.0 under my 200 grain boolits and they function fine with standard springs in all my 45ACP handguns.
    I can certainly see how they would be very easy on your hands to shoot.

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    those are great revolvers! mine has all kinds of rounds through it
    225gr tc cast over a couple grains of a fast burning powder will keep you entertained
    but you can also shoot some heavier stuff if you need to ive shot cast 250gr over a stiff load of blue dot and am still waiting for a deer to give me a chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by David2011 View Post
    The load is 3.7 grains of Titegroup. I built the 1911 for steel plate matches but not Steel Challenge where there is a minimum muzzle velocity. The brass barely clears the ejection port and a few have landed on my hand. They are just warm; not enough powder to get hot. There is a tiny amount of recoil but I don't feel it when shooting. The carbon only got bad after many hundreds of rounds of conventionally lubed boolits.
    I'll have to give that a try since I've come into four pounds of Tite-Boom.
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