SO I STill would like to see some more pictures of """BURNT PATCHES""" my buckthorn alder finally caught up with my willow . 2042 fps. nothing left of patches..Pictures to follow.
This shooter was loading with 777 and determined that he needed more lube on his patches.
It didn't solve the entire problem but it helped to prevent most of it.
He increased the amount of Ballistol in proportion to the amount of water to 5:1.--->>> https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=442323
Them patches are wrecked!!! Lots of argument here about whether they is burnt or blown or cut (I am backing burnt/blown) ---if you are loading dried out patches over 100grains of any decent powder - you are getting the result I would expect...........prove the point by loading either a backer patch or a wad between powder and patched ball ....and shoot damp patches. If you are cutting the patches loading they will still come out at least a bit wrecked - if they come out whole then you know it aint the barrel its the load.
FWIW and contrary to some opinions you can get an accurate load without having to belt it downbore with a mallet.
(The olde timers loaded with a slim wooden ramrod try bashing one of those with a hammer and see how well it works)
Not cut. I made this a inline . i can push straight thru and no holes.
Ox yoke prelubed .010.
yeah - dry lubed patches over a stout load = expected result achieved -----change it !
1) damp moose milk pillow ticking patch - might work
2) put a 1inch backer patch down on the powder before you ram the patched ball - will fix it but you gotta be careful to put it down square (I use a plain 1/4 inch ramrod end) and that dry backer patch is a fire hazard if you are hunting or the range is dry grass.
3) a wad over the charge (card or LDPE) I bet would work but not done it myself
Two things you might try. First it is hard to beat pillow ticking, it worked back in the day & still does today. I use nothing but 3fffg in all my muzzle loaders
& cap & ball revolvers, 2ffg for my shot gun. Works for me.
Fly
I will be trying ox yoke .015 soaked and squeezed with Fabric softener in a couple of hours. I believe it might work wonders.
O.k. now ill be testing the fabric softener lube in a few...TBC.
With the fps your getting & the patches you showing, I think you may be using to much load for the rifle your shooting.
Accuracy is more important than how much power & fps. If you can't hit what your shooting at. With a 50 cal round ball
shooting comps & 1 in 66 twist my most accurate load in 50 to 60 grains of 3fffg. Hunting deer same rifle 70 grains. Never
had a problem taking down a deer with a accurate placed shot. Dead is dead no matter how fast the shot. Wild Bill killed
more men with his 36 cal revolvers than more powerful 44 revolvers.
jmohop Fly
Oh. heck no Fly. I'll be using 75grains for hunting.. Just like the Small Block Chevelle.. best e.t. 12.86 with street tires. ran 13.55 consistently and put quite a few on the trailer. I'm just having fun putting Swiss powder on the trailer.. Also I am looking for the bullet patch combo in the meantime.. sorry but I cant get patch pictures to load
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |