Load DataReloading EverythingLee PrecisionMidSouth Shooters Supply
RepackboxRotoMetals2Titan ReloadingInline Fabrication
Wideners Snyders Jerky
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 21

Thread: 75-100 year old powder?

  1. #1
    Boolit Buddy

    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    367

    75-100 year old powder?

    I have an old can of black powder. It was an old can when I was a kid in the 70s. I'm guessing it's 75-100 years old. I'm thinking about trying it in my Hawkens rifle. I figured I start out at around 50 grains and see how it goes. What do you think? I think it's FFg.

  2. #2
    Boolit Grand Master



    M-Tecs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    9,563
    Black powder doesn't deteriorate. The can has collector value.
    2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. - "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    "Before you argue with someone, ask yourself, is that person even mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of different perspectives? Because if not, there’s absolutely no point."
    – Amber Veal

    "The Highest form of ignorance is when your reject something you don't know anything about".
    - Wayne Dyer

  3. #3
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    248
    Is the powder worth more than the gun ?.

  4. #4
    Boolit Grand Master



    M-Tecs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    9,563
    Last edited by M-Tecs; 05-30-2019 at 07:08 PM.
    2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. - "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    "Before you argue with someone, ask yourself, is that person even mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of different perspectives? Because if not, there’s absolutely no point."
    – Amber Veal

    "The Highest form of ignorance is when your reject something you don't know anything about".
    - Wayne Dyer

  5. #5
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    SE Michigan
    Posts
    451
    What brand is the powder?

  6. #6
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    3,758
    Quote Originally Posted by jednorris View Post
    Is the powder worth more than the gun ?.
    meaning what exactly?????

  7. #7
    Boolit Buddy

    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    367
    It is "Dupont Superfine FFg Gunpowder Wilmington (I think - label is worn) Delaware" The can looks like a flask, about 6" tall and is red. Cool looking can.

  8. #8
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    114
    Wilmington, Delaware - home of DuPont. DuPont was a very well known black powder producer. In fact that is how they got into
    the chemical business.

  9. #9
    Moderator


    Winger Ed.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Just outside Gun Barrel City, Texas
    Posts
    9,712
    There was a article years ago about a fella that found a flintlock pistol buried somewhere.
    It was still loaded. He got the ball out, and the powder.
    Then cleaned it up & reloaded with the same powder and it fired just fine.
    In school: We learn lessons, and are given tests.
    In life: We are given tests, and learn lessons.


    OK People. Enough of this idle chit-chat.
    This ain't your Grandma's sewing circle.
    EVERYONE!
    Back to your oars. The Captain wants to waterski.

  10. #10
    Boolit Buddy

    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    367
    In case anyone is curious. This isn't it, but it looks just like this one.
    Last edited by Pressman; 05-31-2019 at 09:40 PM. Reason: eBay link

  11. #11
    Boolit Buddy
    Knarley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Central Minnesota
    Posts
    351
    Well, there ya go...
    A gun in hand is worth two cops on the phone.
    MOLON LABE

  12. #12
    Vendor Sponsor

    Chill Wills's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Was-Colorado, Wyoming now
    Posts
    3,184
    It would be far more interesting to me to load it in a cartridge rifle and develop a load for it to see how good that brand of old powder was. DuPont made any number of grades. I think this was a mid grade sporting powder. Anyone know for sure?
    Chill Wills

  13. #13
    Boolit Master
    JBinMN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Location
    Goodhue County, SE Minnesota
    Posts
    3,080
    Powder in it, or not. Powder good or not...
    The container is very Cool!
    2nd Amend./U.S. Const. - "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    ~~ WWG1WGA ~~

    Restore the Republic!!!

    For the Fudds > "Those who appease a tiger, do so in the hope that the tiger will eat them last." -Winston Churchill.

    President Reagan tells it like it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6MwPgPK7WQ

    Phil Robertson explains the Wall: https://youtu.be/f9d1Wof7S4o

  14. #14
    Boolit Master Kev18's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2017
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,393
    I have seen that same can go for 125$ at gun shows. I wish I would of bought one. I reload for lever actions and Im a big fan of all the old 19th century looking stuff.

    By the way, the can wasnt pristine for that price. The label was peeling with a few dings.

  15. #15
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Northeast
    Posts
    2,930
    I've been looking at a powder can like that in an antique shop that's selling for around $125, and it's tempting. It doesn't have any powder in it, but if it did, and I bought the can, I'd dump the powder into another container and display the can empty. I'd probably try the powder in my Hawkins for the heck of it, but the powder isn't collectable - the can is. To me, the powder doesn't add value to the can. Others might disagree.
    Whether you use the powder or not, treat that can well.

  16. #16
    Boolit Grand Master In Remembrance
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    South Jersey
    Posts
    6,314
    If it was me - I'd save the DuPont can of Sporting powder with the existing powder in it and buy a new can of Goex FFg
    Regards
    John

  17. #17
    Boolit Buddy

    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    367
    UPDATE: It shot fine! Shot 3 rounds of 60 grains at 50 yards and it shot fine. My group sucked (probably 8"), but this rifle has always been picky. This was my dad's powder. God only knows where he got it; maybe from his daddy. They're both gone now. Anyhow, I thought it would be pretty cool to take a deer with it this fall. Obviously, I have some load development to do first. I'm thinking maxi-balls. Wish me luck!

  18. #18
    Boolit Master
    JBinMN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Location
    Goodhue County, SE Minnesota
    Posts
    3,080
    G'Luck!
    2nd Amend./U.S. Const. - "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    ~~ WWG1WGA ~~

    Restore the Republic!!!

    For the Fudds > "Those who appease a tiger, do so in the hope that the tiger will eat them last." -Winston Churchill.

    President Reagan tells it like it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6MwPgPK7WQ

    Phil Robertson explains the Wall: https://youtu.be/f9d1Wof7S4o

  19. #19
    Boolit Grand Master

    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Northwest Ohio
    Posts
    14,567
    Keep us posted on load development and as much info as possible compression would be interesting to see how it compares to modern powders. Also the velocities achieved with given loads and incremental changes

  20. #20
    Vendor Sponsor

    Chill Wills's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Was-Colorado, Wyoming now
    Posts
    3,184
    In as much as he is shooting a muzzle loader, I don't know how much cartridge and compression info he can pass on. ?????
    Chill Wills

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check