My preferred mould/bullet for the .308 and several other 30 cal cartridges has become the NOE 30 XCB (310-165-FN). It has proven to be very versatile in velocity range and accurate out to 600 yards. As I was out of my "match select" XCBs and needing to cast some more on Monday I shot up the last of my "fouler/sighter" 308Ws I had loaded for my Match M70. I managed 3 sub or moa ten shot groups with them. Load was 23 gr RL7 w/Dacron filler running at 1980 fps. My second choice for 100 yard match level accuracy is the Lyman/Loverin 311466 (NOE makes that one also) or the RCBD 308-165-Sil.
Other moulds of 150 gr or more that I've used with very good success in the .308W over the years are the Lee C312-155-2R, the CTL312-160-2R and the C312-185-1R is proving to be a better Lee mould choice.
The MP 311-1655 and MP 311-180s also are excellent .308W cast bullet though I do not like the moulds in brass but prefer the aluminum blocks.
The other Lyman Moulds I've used with excellent results are the 311299 and the 314299 (in worn throats) and NOE also make replica of those.
Bottom line, for target/accuracy shooting I highly recommend the NOE 310-165-FN XCB bullet.
Larry Gibson
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The magazine is the restriction point for OAL. You can nose size the slugs so they chamber easy however long they are.
But to much in the case is the issue. Our 1906 Mauser rebarreled by Israel about 1948-50 was once a 7mm. The 7x57 cartridge is longer than the 308 so cast can be set out a ways.. you just have to experiment.
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Has anyone tried the NOE 311-199-SP-K5 gas check bullets from the 308 rifles? Did it do well at long distances? Was there a difference with bullet sizing? What is the preferred sizing die for something like an AR rifle? The unsized bullet as loaded in the casing as DUMMY Cartridge will chamber in the AR allowing the BCG to fully go into battery.
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It's hard to argue with that pic Larry posted. I imagine that's what the shank of my bullets look like when I notice alloy blowing back on the neck of the case. The only other short neck 30 I have is the 7.5X55, 168gr Eagan bullet is what works best in it. It's similar to the RCBS 165.
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I have some 308win in semi auto with 2 different barrels and a bolt . I know ,I can do more with the bolt for what I like and the semi I know I have some limits ,just wanted to make sure I use the right boolits to work the best. I glad that Larry show the different of the same boolits in 2 different rounds. I know he puts alot of work into it all, also he willing to help and explain for some of us to understand better. I glad we have people like him on here, also Outpost he helps me in the past too and explain also. There is others on here willing to do the same , thank you all.
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BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |