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Thread: Alloy for Plain base 357 mag?

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    Alloy for Plain base 357 mag?

    I have been loading 38 Special for years and use equal parts lead and COWW and add 1 percent tin. I powder coat all my pistol boolits. I am now getting ready to load for a 357 Magnum Smith & Wesson. Lyman book shows linotype as their test alloy but I think that is probably overkill. What do you all used for plain base 357 loads?

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    Clip on wheel weights, air cooled, has always worked for me. I lube mine, but I wouldn't think powder coating would make any difference.

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    3-4% antimony + 1% tin or clip on wheel weights and tin works fine for 44 Mag. I water drop supersonic loads.
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    The alloy that you are using for 38's should work fine in your 357's.

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    Depends on how hot and what you want to do with it


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    Can't speak to powder coat.

    Keith did all his .357 work with 1:16 or 1:20 tin-lead.

    I do likewise with conventional lube. No issues.
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    Thanks guys. I have a better feeling for it now. Conditor 22, your chart is great. Saved it for future use. Thanks again all.

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    Been using wheel weights for years with no problems. I just keep below 1000fps.

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    Air cooled COWW with "some" tin added and soft homemade lube is all I have ever used. I don't push the 357 to maximum pressures, due to shooting them in a Mod 19 which won't handle full-house loads all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightman View Post
    The alloy that you are using for 38's should work fine in your 357's.
    Yup...'specially if you powder coat. For the last year or so, I've been shooting a PC'd 162 gr. RNFP (Arsenal mold) cast 50/50 from COWW and range scrap (+1% Sn) not only from my .357 wheelguns but also from a Rossi '92. Around 1150 fps from a 4" GP100; no leading, good accuracy. Haven't chrono'd this load from the Rossi but I'm guessing somewhere in the neighborhood of 1400 fps.

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    Hardball Bullet Casting Alloy consists of 2% tin, 6% antimony and 92% lead. https://www.rotometals.com/hardball-...y-and-92-lead/

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    5 lbs ww to 1 lb linotype. Supposedly Lyman #2 alloy....works very well even at magnum velocities. Been shooting it for 40 years.
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    WW + some tin does it for me @ mag levels as well as plinking use.
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    Bore and throat dimensions may matter, not sure as I never checked any when I shot 38/357 revolvers. Normal alloy was 2 parts range lead to one of Lino or just plain range lead sized .357+ in either S&W M14, M15, M27, or M686. On the other hand I never tried for anything near max loads.

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    I agree with above i use 50/50 mix lead ww and that works just fine.

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    I really like 94/3/3 for things that go fast. Lately I have been working with 98% old COWW and 2% pewter. Seems to work very well also, only had one issue and that was light 9mm's with the bullet mistakenly sized small... leaded like nobodies business.

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    For full power go with 16:1 or something harder. I really like the alloy of 91-6-3...91 pb, 6 sn, 3 sb. It's harder than 16:1 but doesn't fracture on impact. It's the alloy I use, especially in rifles.

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    Attachment 242620This is a 158gr from Accurate Molds cast with about 97-3 lead to tin. I run it 1280 fps from a 6" no dash 686 and it is very accurate with no lead at all. Boolit fit is the key. The cylinder throats are .357 and that's what I size these to. Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
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    I use COWW and just a small amount of Ni Babbitt for the tin content. I do this for all of my cast boolits and lube w/ WLL Carnauba Red. Works for me!
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BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
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