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Last edited by 44MAG#1; 09-13-2019 at 03:26 PM.
I am of the same thought as your friend.
The solid soft lead bullet is undoubtably the best and most satisfactory expanding bullet that has ever been designed. It invariably mushrooms perfectly, and never breaks up. With the metal base that is essential for velocities of 2000 f.s. and upwards to protect the naked base, these metal-based soft lead bullets are splendid.
John Taylor - "African Rifles and Cartridges"
Forget everything you know about loading jacketed bullets. This is a whole new ball game!
Would be interesting to find a known can from that era and screen it comparing to todays and the screening. It would have to be from a can or keg since coming from loaded cartridges its compressed and dug out
Well the southern troops used smaller granules then the Northern troops it was due to trying to make it go further.The South also used a lot of river willow to make their own powder.
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I started out with nothing and I still have most of it left.
Paralyzed Veterans of America
Looking for a Hensly &Gibbs #258 any thing from a two cavity to a 10cavityI found a new one from a member here
Check out this thread post #7:
https://www.cascity.com/forumhall/in...?topic=57532.0
My sentence below paraphrases the point made in the above link.
If your firearm is producing less than the historical velocity you expected with the historically correct quantity of powder then change to the next finer granulation and re-chrono the load.
Also moving to a higher quality of powder plus the finer granulation will put your MV up where it will be historically correct.
I have some 3fg Old Eynsford BP on order so I can test this in my own 45 Colt New Vaquero.
I know a lot of folks use FF in these cartridge rifles but let me say this without meaning to ruffle any feathers. I’ve shot muzzleloading rifles ( not cartridge rifles ) and smoothbores all my life with tack driving accuracy using FFF Goex. My 50 cal. will wear out the bottom of a dixie cup at 50 yrds. Does anyone use FFF in their cartridge rifle. I’d love to use it in my 45-70 cause I have 4 lbs. of the stuff.
buzzard`s gotta eat, same as the worms
Josey Wales
I use 2F and 3F OE and Swiss in my .45-90, .44-75 Ballard and the .44-100 Rem Straight.
FFF will work fine in your 45/70 -----if its a modern build rifle - FFF certainly is gonna generate more pressure than FF - so if its an 1800's roller or trapdoor maybe give that old steel some extra respect.
I shoot FFFg in my '86 chiappa and my sharps (45/70's) and in muzzies up to 50 - got a 54ml and an 1876 uberti that get FFg -
Once you start playin 4lbs of powder will disappear quicker than ya thought!
I won some 2F Old Eynsford as a door prise at the last Lodi match. I thought I would load it for my daughter's rifle for the upcoming Quigley and when I opened it up I was surprised at how fine it was. It looked like a mix of 3F and 4Fand the granulation was not very uniform so I went back and loaded with my normal 1- 1/2 Swiss. There's quite a difference between 1 1/2 Swiss and 2F Olde Eynsford granulation with the Swiss being more course. I think each company has their own idea of what the size should be when it comes to labeling their powders.
I use Olde Eynsford 1-1/2F and 2F and the 2F is much finer than the 1-1/2.
So much so that I haven't even tried it in any of my big bottle neck cases.
1-1/2 on the left, 2F on the right:
The original Eley 450/400 cartridge I dismantled had bigger granules than the 1-1/2F OE eventhough it was compressed into the case. It all picked out with very even granulation and very little fines in the case.
I believe Buffalo arms in their powder section has the screen sizes for the various powders not only by granulation but maker also. This might help some
swiss black powder only.
1-1/2f for all bpcr/tr cartridge rifles, 3f down the tube and in the pan for all flintlock long guns.
when i had cap'n'ball pistols, 3f only.
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |