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Thread: Some advice re 9mm HP boolit

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    Boolit Master armoredman's Avatar
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    Some advice re 9mm HP boolit

    Ladies and gentlemen, I am looking for a unicorn. I want to find a hollow point mold, one that is easy to use, can be run to cast many at a time, gives a HP that will expand at cast velocities, and get this - doesn't cost a fortune. Caveat - I work for the state, so fortune to me might be what you might drop at the tables in Vegas in an afternoon... I am looking to start using 9mm cast for my woods walking stuff.
    Thank you for any constructive advise, much appreciated.

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    I can't help you with all of those criteria but you may be better off with a TC flat point is it has to be a cast bullet. The 9mm does its best work around 115-125 grain weight and the TC design seems to function well in a large selection of pistols. The heavy for caliber bullets can often show good accuracy but they give up a lot of velocity.

    If you just need a few hollowpoint rounds, you may be better off economically if you buy jacketed hollowpoints. The return on investment for a HP mold is going to take a LONG time.

    I would suggest finding a 120 grain TC design mold that you and your pistol like for practice and then buying commercial hollowpoint bullets that are close to the same weight.

    That's my $0.02.

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    https://www.mp-molds.com/e-shop/mold...no-lube-groove

    Or this
    https://www.mp-molds.com/e-shop/mold...25-hp-pb-4-cav

    Follow instructions how to use brass HP mould (preheating...) and your investment will be payed in one afternoon....great expansion and great accuracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamsek View Post
    https://www.mp-molds.com/e-shop/mold...no-lube-groove

    Or this
    https://www.mp-molds.com/e-shop/mold...25-hp-pb-4-cav

    Follow instructions how to use brass HP mould (preheating...) and your investment will be payed in one afternoon....great expansion and great accuracy

    Ditto. This mold with the lube groove is the only 9mm I use now. I usually cast with the penta pins in because I like the way they look and I think the pins make it easier to cast with

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamsek View Post
    https://www.mp-molds.com/e-shop/mold...no-lube-groove

    Or this
    https://www.mp-molds.com/e-shop/mold...25-hp-pb-4-cav

    Follow instructions how to use brass HP mould (preheating...) and your investment will be payed in one afternoon....great expansion and great accuracy
    Ditto.

    I got their 45 NLG HP mold last week and gave it a couple of preheat cycles. I've cast with it two short sessions only, I found it hard to stop casting the second time because the bullets fly out of the mold when I turn it upside down. Sometimes shake a little,absolutely no tapping whatsoever needed. I rather not hit my molds with anything.

    Beautiful bullets,I use both HP pins.

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    128.25 Euros is $143.00 at today's exchange rate - just saying.

    You can buy 800 jacketed HP for $128:
    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/13...d-hollow-point

    I enjoy casting and I've certainly spent more than $128 on a single mold but in keeping with the OP's criteria - he might get more bang for his buck with a non-HP mold for practice.

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    Some advice re 9mm HP boolit

    Sorry Petrol&Powder but we are here because of casting, not because we wanna buy jacketed stuff?
    I personally am proud because I haven’t bought any jacketed for my 9,38,357,44,300BLK for years. I agree that any FP will work great too, I mostly use MP NLG FP version of this exact bullet in 8cav for my every day load.

    Miha’s prices include shipping and you get much more then just a HP mould, you get two different HP pins and one set of 4 pins for making FP’s. Versatile and much worth its price.

    After you cast 800 HP, you can still sell the mould and how is that NOT better then buying jacketed?


    Photo of some expanded bullets from this 9mm mould (purple) and from MP 432-423 200grs 44 Spcl. Pure lead with some 5% tin is best for expansion.
    Last edited by Gamsek; 05-21-2019 at 10:53 AM.

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    I have no doubt about what you are saying.

    However my response was based on this from the OP:

    "......I want to find a hollow point mold, one that is easy to use, can be run to cast many at a time, gives a HP that will expand at cast velocities, and get this - doesn't cost a fortune. Caveat - I work for the state, so fortune to me might be what you might drop at the tables in Vegas in an afternoon... "

    So while he wants a mold, he put limits on that request and the biggest limitation I saw in his post was price. I was just attempting shed some light on the cost of that option and give other alternatives.

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    Petrol&Powder, apologies from my side, I did not want to sound smart, giving advice is sometimes influenced by our preferences and your advice was reasonable.
    For fellow caster who is on a edge of buying quality HP mould with built in versatility (NOE or MP) - welcome to the wonderful world of HPs

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    Considering a dual cavity RCBS mold costs 160 euros here,shipped,I can't think Mihec is an expensive 4-gang HP mold. I bought this RCBS last year from Brownells.

    But I always drive 500€ 20+ years old cars.

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    It may be a bit pricey but check i believe thats two molds for that price.

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    I can heartily recommend this mould.

    http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product...roducts_id=345

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    if your looking for the cheap but NO hp, get the same mould in fp option.

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    Or a Lee mold & something like Forster Hollow Pointer Kit?

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    I have the Lyman 9mm Devastator and haven't been able to make it feed in my CZ75B. This bullet fits the magazine with room to spare, but won't chamber as the nose touches the lands. Fortunately, I only loaded a few trial rounds, I'll try seating the bullet deeper next time. I think this bullet at 133 grain from my mold, would be perfect for a 38spl...

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    NOE or MP.

    Every hollow point mold I've owned, well over a dozen right now, has paid for it's self in 1-2 casting sessions. I shoot a LOT of 9mm hollow points.

    Either this mold https://mp-molds.com/e-shop/molds/ho...25-hp-pb-4-cav

    or this mold http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=34_463

    I prefer the MP as I have a soft spot for brass molds and love the penta point.
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    I have one NOE mold, and it is top notch. Thank you for some excellent leads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petander View Post
    Or a Lee mold & something like Forster Hollow Pointer Kit?
    I am not familiar with that item...

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    I think NOE is your best bet for quality at a good price. LHP expansion is always about alloy & HP design. This one is a custom rcbs from Erik @ HPMS.
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    yeah, I'd go with a NOE. His (Al Nelson's) online shop is really well set up and he's a true gent to boot.
    Whatever he has in stock that's in the ballpark–I would go for a 135 gr., the HP will run in the 125-130 range.If he doesn't have what you want, things are always coming online as he finishes runs. Buy enough of them and everything's 10% off

    This would do the job: http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product...oducts_id=1052
    there's no less expensive option if you want to cast boucoups HPs
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