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Thread: Which is best in a .357 for ACCURACY? .38 spl cases or .357 magnum?

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    Lee 358-158-RF 13 bhn PC'd sized .358 seated to the crimp groove
    over Lyman #4 max 2400 load in 357 cases, 1 hole group at 50 yards out of an IMI Timberwolf.
    I quit testing

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    I think you can get excellent accuracy with both. I think the difference will be so insignificant that you can not tell the difference shooting off hand. The .357 cases will eliminate chamber cleaning.

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    I would have to say 357 cases. But will also say i seriously doubt you could tell the difference. I certainly don't shoot good enough to.

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    I competed in PPC for about 14 or 15 years. Shot good enough to get into and stay in the Governors 20. My main competition revolver was a Davis built S&W Model 64 with a slab sided barrel and a bunch of stuff not seen. My Distinguished Revolver was a S& W Model 686 with a 6” barrel.

    I shot reloads in practice and Federal factory for competition until the day I realized my practice scores were equal or perhaps an X higher than competition. Some of that is normal but after a year, I just went with reloads. I used a cast DEWC in 38 Special cases. I do not recall the lube but I only lubed and groove. Primers were CCI and cases were degraded by head stamp, I believe I used Federal in competition. I seated the boolits long to get into the throats.

    The point I am trying to make is the scores with the 686 (chambered in 357) were good enough that at some point I retired the Davis gun and just shot the 686. So, at least in those two revolvers, three decades ago, the 38 Special case shot great from the magnum chamber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrol & Powder View Post
    Lathesmith, a member of this forum, can make an excellent powder through expander (powder funnel in Dillon parlance) for the Dillon powder dies. The powder funnel is a game changer for loading cast bullets, including wadcutters. You can ask for the dimensions you want but essentially the key is an expander that expands the case to a larger diameter and to a greater depth in the casing. Add to that a Lyman style "M" die "step" to help align the bullet in the casing and you'll have an outstanding set up.

    If you have a lathe and some suitable round stock, you could probably make one yourself. It's not a complex part.
    If you'd rather have one made, Lathesemith's work is top notch and I highly recommend him.
    His work is very good, I bought items from him before, star size dies from him before I bought the lathe. I have been contemplating making the special wad cutter powder funnel, I have the tool steel rod stock on hand. It’ll be easier than the custom expander I made for my RCBS .38-55 cowboy dies. One of my first projects beyond fooling around. I admit it took me three tries to get the threads right. Anyone need a .382 expander with reverse threads? Yea, I did that.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
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