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Thread: Russian T44 7.62×54 are they worth more than a 91/30? 379.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Helmer View Post
    Earlwb,

    I agree with you. I have a few 91/30s, various Finns and a M44 carbine. All are fine cast boolit arms. I got my M44 about 10 years ago and it is a true MOA 100 yard gun with my Lyman #311467 boolit sized .311."

    I did not remove the bayonet because my buddy did on his M44 and his accuracy and POA/POI (Point of Aim/Point of Impact) went all over the place. Since I found the accuracy load for my M44, I let well enough alone.

    Adam
    Hummm, I will keep that in mind. Maybe mount a bipod to balance it out some instead. That reminds me of a number of other military rifles that tended to shoot much better with a bayonet attached to them too. It is like they regulated the rifles to shoot best with a mounted bayonet on them.
    Last edited by Earlwb; 05-03-2019 at 09:59 PM. Reason: add more info

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    For range time a Finn M39 and any M44 aren't generally going to be in the same league. Like a Mustang vs an F150.

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    I bought my Russian M44 almost 30 years ago for about $135 and maybe the price was a little high today you could if you are really lucky get one for about $350 & up. Priced a great Lee Enfield lately?. get ready for sticker shock. Back then I could afford to be very picky regarding bore condition,stock,matching numbers on any mil surp cause there were so many on the market. Today it's a sellers market as the quality and quantity isn't there. That is true wether its a 1903A3 or a Russian M44. Only thing is that there are still a lot of WWII parts still available for a Springfield rather than a M44. Same with surplus ammo, 303,8mm,7mm,6.5mm and others are no longer available in large quantities. Gun show dealers usually have the same old stuff and inflated prices. I've bought 3 rifles in the last ten years, Persian 98/29, Yugo M48BO, and a Steyr model of 1912 in 7mm made for Chile. Just haven't seen any nice mil surp in a long time. Last dealer at a gun show refused to take the nylon wire tie off so's I could check the barrel. His loss not mine. Frank

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    The 44's are particular of whether the bayonet is locked closed or open. It may also change POI also for each position. One way will shoot better than the other.

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