Well... that s my question. Im really trying to clean up my Winchester 1886. It doesnt have a new polished/chrome bore in it. It was made in 1889. Im using Hoppe's #9. I got tired of using the store bought cleaning patches because I rran through them too fast. I stayed for a really long time cleaning the barrel.
First wet passes are coming out with grey on the patch. Im guessing its lead, which is normal. I shoot cast.
Second passes with the dry patches come out looking good. First one has grime on it, then second one is white and clean.
When I restart the process, the patches come out *** dirty as the first time I passed the patches in... '
It isnt the first rifle I cleaned. Usually il pass a few patches in, and then pass the dry ones with successful results.