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    224 Valkyrie

    My buddy has the hunger for a 224 Valkyrie. he would most likely use it for hunting hog and deer. I have no interest in the round and always wonder is it whole of hype. I read this article https://www.chuckhawks.com/224valkyrie_compared.html
    The article supported my thoughts. He asking my opinion and I really don't want to give mine. Has anyone hunted with this round does perform well? thanks rrh

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    As a hunting round for deer and hogs IMHO it is marginal. I have taken both deer and antelope with 22-250 and 220 Swift and with proper bullet selection and shot placement they both worked. The issue I have with the .224 Valkyrie is it's fast twist to stabilize the long heavy bullets. Since these bullets are so new not sure how well the will work on deer and hogs. If they don't perform as expected the next questions is will the lighter more traditional bullets withstand the RPM's from the quick twist?

    I have never hunted hogs but 22 Cal would not be my first, second, third or fourth choice.
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    If you MUST use a 22 for pigs, the Barnes 70 TSX is by far the best bullet.

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    I am building an AR rite now in that caliber
    I have an AR in 6.5 Creedmoor and it out shoots most bolt guns I own
    and if you ask my wife I have to many
    I no nothing of Hype I like that its new and offers new opportunities
    when your the new kid it seems to draw unwarranted criticism for what ever reason
    but being fairly new is probably the reason
    treading on the heels of one's tried and true is also cause for these feelings as well
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    Chunk Hawks comparison is one of the most slanted I
    have had read in a long time he forgot to compare it to
    the 30-06,338 wm and the 375 HH mag
    starts of he should have compared it to the 223 which is
    really a more fair comp.
    the AR15 platform need certain parameters to function and
    that is why the Valkerie was made
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    The most oomph for .224" heavy bullets in the AR15 mag limitation is its reason for being. The 22 Nosler exists for the max velocity from lighter .224" bullets. Either one will kill pigs and deer with proper placement. The .223 does. Yes there are better choices.

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    I have never really understood the seemingly rush of so many to use smaller and smaller calibers for larger game. Yes if used properly they can work but we all know how many "hunters' don't hit the best place on an animal. I have nothing against the caliber but to me any 22 caliber is very marginal for larger game.

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    I occasionally see 224 Valkyrie brass at my gun club. Please send me a PM IF you would like me to start hanging onto that brass for your buddy. I don't have any opinions about it's actual performance, but I am always leery of new "FAD" chamberings where brass becomes like "Hen's Teeth"


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    .224 Valk has been outstanding for killing hogs for a friend and his father in Victoria,Texas, using the 75 gr. TMJ load. "It punches way above its weight class" he says. Dad will use nothing else to kill hogs now.

    https://www.federalpremium.com/224-valkyrie/

    Not sure about the "new bullets" thing....... Sierra and Barnes are pretty well proven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamish View Post
    .224 Valk has been outstanding for killing hogs for a friend and his father in Victoria,Texas, using the 75 gr. TMJ load. "It punches way above its weight class" he says. Dad will use nothing else to kill hogs now.

    https://www.federalpremium.com/224-valkyrie/
    FMJ's or TMJ are not a legal hunting bullet in most states. Never looked at the Texas regs. The Barnes Triple-Shock X
    78-grain should be outstanding hunting bullet. It was introduced for the 224 Valkyrie. Before that I believe Barnes heaviest 22 Cal hunting bullet was 70 grain.

    Sierra's heaviest hunting bullet in 22 Cal is 77 grains so the 90 and 100 grain hunting bullets are a new thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamish View Post

    Not sure about the "new bullets" thing....... Sierra and Barnes are pretty well proven.
    When the 224 Valkyrie was first being pushed they were claiming a 100 grain Fusion for hunting. https://www.ammoland.com/2017/10/224...#axzz5lg8n7VNb

    That apparently didn't work as planned since it was replaced with a 90 grain. 90 grain match bullets have been played with for a long time in 22 Cal competitors. Due to various issues the 90 grain and above bullets have a very limited following. No real surprise they dialed it back to 90 grains.

    https://www.ammoland.com/2017/10/224...#axzz5lg8n7VNb
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    Texans have been hunting deer and hogs with 22 caliber wildcats for years. I've got a 22 Wildcat rifle based off the 6mm Remington case that I rechambered a 22-250 barrel with a 1-14" twist barrel too a year back. I shoot paper with it so I don't intend to shoot anything heavier than 55gr with it but the guys who use the wildcat for hunting use 1-8" or tighter twist barrels for their 69-90gr bullets.

    regarding the 22 Nosler, I'm not a fan of rebated rims and the 224 Valkyrie is simply a 6.8 SPC case necked down (so is the 22 Nosler but with a rebated rim so AR15 owners wouldn't have to replace their bolts if they just rebarreled their AR15 upper to the new caliber and bought the required 6.8SPC magazines).

    22 Nosler is a single-source brass at this point and the guys who brought out the 224 Valkyrie banked on folks willing to convert over for the extra powder space in the 22 caliber chambering using the 6.8SPC brass wouldn't be phased by paying $90 for a new bolt for their AR15s in addition to the barrel and magazine change over. And having the ability to reform the 6.8SPC cases means folks can still make cartridges if their local gunshop can't get in 224 Valk brass on a regular basis.

    Me??? When I saw the 224 Valk /22 Nosler cartridges coming out, I knew it was time to build an AR15 in 30 Herrett Rimless cartridge off the 6.8SPC cases as I knew that the case was now here to stay.

    And I like the bigger 30 caliber AR15 cartridge.... After experimenting with 300BLK and 7.62x39 AR15 carbines, this one is the best of the three.
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