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Thread: How many of these myths do you still believe?

  1. #61
    Boolit Buddy
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    Oct 2013
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigslug View Post
    Bad guys don't feel any more "impact" on the receiving end than your firing hand gets from recoil. Newton, folks - look him up
    bad guys don't get the luxury of a metal block that weighs 80 times more than the projectile to slow down its force. likewise if you were gonna get hit by a train with the same amount of force as a 50 bmg you wont receive equal and opposite forces, you'll just die of old age waiting for the train to arrive.

    the original article, I have a hard time taking seriously as soon as I seen them use wild bill kickok as proof that getting shot at first don't have a negative effect. possibly the most obvious case of cherry picking data I've ever seen. whoever wrote it must have been more concerned about hearing their point than passing any scrutiny, so Id say it don't have value other than one persons opinion.

    that's enough disagreeing for one morning

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    Boolit Master FergusonTO35's Avatar
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    May 2012
    Boonesborough, KY
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigslug View Post

    What it's down to is placement, penetration, and maybe diameter, if you can get it without sacrificing the first two. We can generally place rounds much better if they aren't beating the **** out of us; penetration is almost purely a factor of tuning bullet design rather than the cartridge that launches it; and diameter isn't going to vary more than a few tenths of an inch with any gun we'd likely carry. If getting that diameter gives you a harder to control pistol that is either placing your rounds MULTIPLE inches from your intended point of aim, or it slows you down to where you can only drill ONE hole to effective depth instead of two or even three, what does the extra couple tenths actually DO for you?

    So while NO, I won't be taking along a Walther PPK full of ball ammo to Alaska for my final defense against Kodiak bears, I no longer regard the concept as suicidally insane as I would have 30 years ago.
    Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, .30 WCF, .45-70 Gov't.

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    Boolit Master
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    Oct 2012
    [QUOTE=Ozark mike;4632859..... my 58 remmie is all I need.[/QUOTE]

    I used a chronograph with my 58 and found that the ~140gn round ball at 1300fps was close to .357Mag velocities. So, yeah, it does the job.

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check