How much force?

[putnro01]

I'm putting 30 cal gator checks (bought from NOE) on my 311299 copy, also from NOE. Bullets are cast from straight lino and drop .312. I size to .311.

My process:

1. Seat the check on the shank.
2. Set the check/bullet in the sizing die.
3. Seat, size and lube.

I cannot believe how much force is required to seat this check. It takes significant pressure. As in "OOMPH" and "I swear I'm going to break the handle of this thing!" (Thing being the lubrisizer.)

Thoughts?

[dimaprok]

Put on within 1 day after casting or after powder coating, hard lead and thick gas check, your trying to swage gas check into the lead. This is why my gas checks for 30 caliber are only 13-14 thousands thick punched from soft Home Depot aluminum rolls.

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[putnro01]

Thanks. Any ideas as to who makes the thinnest commercial check?

[dimaprok]

If you do it after the casting the lead is softer and should be a lot easier to put on

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[Rattlesnake Charlie]

I often have a little flashing on the base of bullets that I remove with the NOE tool just for that purpose. Makes seating gas checks much easier.

[Peregrine]

I often have a little flashing on the base of bullets that I remove with the NOE tool just for that purpose. Makes seating gas checks much easier.

Which tool is that, have a link to their store?

[JBinMN]

Which tool is that, have a link to their store?

Manual one:http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product...products_id=28

Power one:http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product...products_id=29

Gripper for small .223 boolits:http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product...products_id=34

[dimaprok]

I get flashing from powder coat if I bake them standing never from casting.

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[Bookworm]

I seat the checks in a NOE push through sizer. Then, in a separate step, I size and lube. Some boolits I size and seat checks with a push sizer, and lube in an old Lyman 45.

Those 311299 and the like, are very long-nosed. I'm afraid of bending them if I mash hard seating the check with an H&I die.

[dimaprok]

I seat the checks in a NOE push through sizer. Then, in a separate step, I size and lube. Some boolits I size and seat checks with a push sizer, and lube in an old Lyman 45.

Those 311299 and the like, are very long-nosed. I'm afraid of bending them if I mash hard seating the check with an H&I die.

If you got proper nose punch no problem. I just use my lee sizer and don't have to worry about nose plus the gas check comes out nice and straight bottom.

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[MT Chambers]

While lube sizing on the Star, gas checking or not, I run about 1 already lubed bullet through after every 4 bullets, smooths things out a lot.

[Bookworm]

If you got proper nose punch no problem. I just use my lee sizer and don't have to worry about nose plus the gas check comes out nice and straight bottom.

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I shoot a N0E 316-213-RN, which is a fat clone of the 311299/314299, in my Mosin 91/30. I had Swede send the nose punch he makes for that boolit with it (for $5 extra, why not?).
I use a .316 NOE-built push-through sizer to seat the check and size, then lube it in a custom made .316 H&I die in an old Lyman 45.

I'm not getting as many flyers since going this route. A bit of extra work, but I shoot maybe 60-70 a month, so not usually a major problem.