I keep trying to stay afloat but can't help from shooting holes in my own boat.
Rimfire garden-gun cartridge? Maybe European. Have seen similar around at cartridge collector shows.
Looking for Ideal mold 419181 (44 Evans Long)
"Joined Dates" are deceiving if you factor-in "lurk" dates.
Cartridges of the world lists several small shotshells like that. The older 5th edition does atleast. If you give the dimensions I'll see about looking for you.
Possibly a shell for a 9mm shotgun.
Several 9mm Shot shell were for cane guns. they were simpler to make tan center fire
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I agree a small rimfire shotgun shell for a parlor/garden gun. Back in the late 1800's to early 1900's it was popular for the European rich to have parlor or garden guns and gun ranges. They used small shotguns for that purpose. a 9mm shotgun was the one. There were cheap ones and good expensive ones made. it wasn't very popular in America though. Not all that many of the things made it across the Atlantic. Anyway there were quite a few companies that made the ammunition for them.
ref http://www.ammo-one.com/9MM-SHOTGUN-SHELL.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_guns
Last edited by Earlwb; 04-02-2019 at 07:23 PM. Reason: add more info
think winchester made a 9mm garden gun
Yup my first thought was a 9 mm flobert. I don't think it could be anything else.
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