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Thread: 12 Gauge from hell

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    Wow, it could really be from hell. Lol.
    Mrs. Hogwallop up and R-U-N-N-O-F-T.

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    Why would you say lead molds are limited? Accurate molds will make you anything within their tooling capabilities. That means pretty much unlimited design options for a bullet this big. I guess a copper bullet is longer, but when you are only shooting one or two rounds a week, is it that hard to just add a felt wad under the slug? At the same time, a $2 each copper bullet is not that bad when shot at such a low quantity?

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    This may not apply to shotgun slugs from hell, but good water quenched, powder-coated hardcast lead can really stand up to some velocity. I've sent light-for-caliber hardcast .45-70 bullets downrange at some pretty terrifying speeds and had them hold together. 250-260gn flat or round nose .452 or .454 pistol bullets cast from coww+ some tin and copper, and then heavily powder coated will blast through a good size pine log at well over 2000fps and still stay in one piece.
    I would imagine those fury slugs use a soft swaged lead core, a thin non-bonded copper jacket, and are splattering on impact. While the brass slug sure is interesting, very similar performance can be achieved for pennies on the dollar. I would look for a fullbore russian mold, or an Accurate or NOE .729 mold that approximates a flat base pistol bullet (paradox?) with plenty of bearing surface, then cook up a good hard (bhn 20-ish) batch of lead and rock out with it.
    you're looking at a cost of about $100-150 plus some basic casting and powder coating equipment, but you'd have a lifetime supply of whopper slugs that you can adjust hardness to suit your needs.
    This wouldn't address the loading density issue that you're currently fighting, but maybe a nitro card and some filler under the slug would get you in the ballpark?
    I have no doubt that at the energy levels you're playing with, either the brass lehigh slug, or a home-brew hardcast creation will blast lengthwise through a buffalo.
    You've got yourself an anti-material shotgun right there, buddy!

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    Still waiting on the design draft and quote from Lehigh. Dave said I should have something to look at by middle of this week. As soon as I hear something I will post here. Also, a thought that I had. Loading this heavy of a slug in a normal 12 gauge could be hairy as there is no data out there. I believe it's possible to run a subsonic load for this but it would take experimenting. But one thought I had was loading this with a sabot for 10 gauge. Might be interesting there and would be supersonic. I shoot 1.75 oz factory slugs in my 10 gauge. These slugs will be 1.65 oz.

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    I am totally impressed with that monster you developed. Nice. But I can see someone getting a concussion or retinal tear from shooting it too. Now all you need are some T-Rex dinosaurs to hunt.

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    People have shot a lot heaver loads in a standard 12 gauge than that. Plenty of 1 3/4 ounce data. A rifled barrel 10 gauge has never been made, so no go there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by megasupermagnum View Post
    A rifled barrel 10 gauge has never been made, so no go there.
    Not true! 10 ga. RIFLED SLUG BARRELS have been built around the H&R Ultra Slug gun, which is a 10 ga. receiver. Slug loads are 3 1/2" brass hulls loaded with 2 7/8 oz. semi wadcutter full bore diameter slugs @ 1,100 fps..

    As far as I know, there have been only 18 of these guns made here in the U.S.A.

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    You'd probably get more velocity at less pressure with a 10 gauge. How accurate does this need to be? An attached wad slug in a smooth bore would be easier than finding a rifle barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASSASSIN View Post
    Not true! 10 ga. RIFLED SLUG BARRELS have been built around the H&R Ultra Slug gun, which is a 10 ga. receiver. Slug loads are 3 1/2" brass hulls loaded with 2 7/8 oz. semi wadcutter full bore diameter slugs @ 1,100 fps..

    As far as I know, there have been only 18 of these guns made here in the U.S.A.
    Well good, you and the 17 others can buy all these copper bullets. And so starts the 10 gauge from hell.
    Last edited by megasupermagnum; 03-13-2020 at 10:19 PM.

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