I’m an outlier, I guess. I bought a 12 lb keg of SR 4759 based on how people here reacted to its discontinuation and I haven’t really seen what the fuss is all about. To me it’s just another stick powder that’s hard to meter. I haven’t found any use for it that I can’t fill just as well with another powder. I probably still have 10 lb left in the can.
2400 and RL22 are the two powders I would miss most. 2400 because I use it in so many different loads and RL22 just for 257 Weatherby.
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When Red Dot goes I'm going sell out the whole kit and is kaboodle of reloading gear.
I started out with nothing and I still have most of it left.
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Looking for a Hensly &Gibbs #258 any thing from a two cavity to a 10cavityI found a new one from a member here
I talked with Ron Reiber, the product manager at Hodgdon Powder about a month ago and he told me that they were working on a new powder that was every bit the equal or maybe even better than 4759. I forgot the name he gave to the powder but he said cast boolit shooters would be impressed. It will be a stretch to equal that time tested powder but I'm looking forward to trying some.
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I have found that Bullseye and 452AA both work wonderfully in the .44-40 and give normal ballistics with good accuracy.
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I am in a good group here I like RedDot ,Re-7 ,SR 4759 and some others mentioned a lot !
I had a good supply of OLD Reloader 7 and ran out the current stuff looks completely different more like IMR-4227 or SR 4759 I have not reworked any loads with it yet .
When I think back on all the **** I learned in high school it's a wonder I can think at all ! And then my lack of education hasn't hurt me none I can read the writing on the wall.
Years back I was a member of the powder of the month club and usually would get a few cans of each and test it in cartridges that used the older powders. Some worked,some didn't. Called up a buddy of mine and asked him if he wanted some powder and read off the list. Half hour later he's ringing the door bell. Two large boxes went out the door. What he could use he kept, the rest he gave away. I tend to be more conservative now and basically use IMR 4350 in the '06, Imr 4895 for 308, IMR 4759 for cast bullets, 4227,2400 also for cast in small cartridges.Unique for cast as well.
Frank
Well back in the day I though WW630-P was UN-replaceable , then I found WW630 and I never thought I could replace that, then I found H110. It would be tough but if I had to replace it I could. Blue Dot would come to mind. I have used H110 in all my 357 mag rounds for years, and my .22 Hornet. My best friend and I buy 4 kegs at a time. But Blue Dot could work. Now ask me if I would like it.
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Personally I have a hard time with virtually any powder being unable to be replaced that said I subscribe to the "trinity" theory of reloading when it comes to handgun powders. That is Bullseye, Unique and 2400. If you have those there's few rounds you can't reload in a hand gun. For rifle there's so many options and its very caliber specific. If I were going to toss out one and only one powder I'd probably think IMR 4064. It shoots average to well in a lot of calibers. I doubt that Unique will ever cease production until man ceases production or uses phased plasma rifles in the 40 watt range.
I miss 4759, but I'm not forlorn over it. So many options to choose from today. Not at all like it was when I caught the reloading bug from Dad in the '60s.
Wouldn't like to lose Varget, Bullseye, or Lil'Gun, but I'd survive.
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This is a huge truth. When a friend's dad passed away I was looking at his reloading book from the 70sish. You got 2-3 powders per cartridge pretty much even silly common stuff like .38 Special or 9mm. These days someone makes several powders for almost anything that are good. It obviously gives you a lot of options tuning for rounds. You'd lose a little performance off the top but it would be survivable in virtually any caliber at this point.
I was at a gun auction a couple of years ago that had a trap shooters estate in it. They had a lot of sealed cans and kegs of powder. The first one up was win 630. Auctioneer had to take it clear down to $1 to get a bid. I knew what it was and got 16lb of it for $4.50. I thought I was going to buy all the powder for pennies but the bidding went crazy on the known powders. I have been loading 44, 45 & 45/70 with it with good results.
GONRA is using is his Precious Stock of Win-West 630 P Ball Powder - for .38 Super, .44 AutoMag, 7.62 Tokarev....
(630 P fanatics no you can use it in .25 ACP - per powder Mfg. Factor suggestion:
Here's my load: 50.2 grains, .252 diameter, Lyman 252435 cast bullet,
3.0 grains 630P powder, CCI #500 primer.
Verks Just Fine: Browning Baby, Walther M-9 vest pocket pistols.
Hard 630 P balls exactly support bullet base!)
I have been loading with discontinued powders. I have a nice collection of old reloading books.
Some times you get lucky. I picked up 10lbsish of assorted powders when I was at the LGS and they had a bunch of stuff from a shooter who passed away. Lots of 1/4-1/2 lbs stuff but hey I don't complain about a gift. I got a couple cool tin cans of powder and cans of RL-12 and RL-22 where the label is actually painted on the can not just stuck on.
Well CFE pistol seems to be a match made in heaven for light bullet 45 acp loads. book says 185gr- 1140fps at max out of a test barrel at standard pressure.
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |