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Thread: 11mm Gras

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    Boolit Buddy
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    11mm Gras

    Anyone try forming this case? Any suggestions? Know where be I can find dies? Best, Dan

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    I have formed the 11mm. . Used die Impossible . Ch4d i believe has them got mine there Recently.. I formed them from 50/110. the rim is smaller but will work. . since the bolt face is recessed. you will have to adj. for
    headspace. But It does not make a difference.
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    Replied to wrong post.

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    Back about 2 years ago I learned about a different website where one of the members was the honcho of a group buy for both the 11x59mmR Gras and the 7.65mm French Longue. I bought in for one set of each caliber with the 11x59mm to be sold to the owner of a Gras. He now has those dies. The dies were being made by Lee. You might make a call to Lee to ask if they have any over-run sets still in their possession. The sets were higher cost than regular production Lee dies, but still one heck of a bargain against all the other makers. I will search through my remaining notes about that purchase. If I can find the honcho's name and details, will contact him if he has any sets unclaimed.

    We found formed brass (bought 30 pieces) at Buffalo Arms, parent case was the 50-110 Winchester. These were nicely formed but still required annealing when they arrived. The rims did not make their way out to the extractor. The rifle's owner stated no problem and pushes fired cases out of the chamber with the cleaning rod. He obtained his rifle when he was a teenager working in a gas station. A customer came in who was broke and desperate for a fill-up. The boy traded a tank of gas (probably around 25 cents per gallon) for the rifle. He had never fired it and asked me to create ammo for him. Now, around 60 years later, he is a happy camper.

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    Danth, PM headed your way.

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    Check CH4D website for dies. Dave may have them on the shelf.
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    As I recall, 348 Win is a simple fire form job. Takes two fireings to get it fully blown out.

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