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Thread: 311410 Single Choice Group Buy for .300 Blackout - Duke???

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    why not just copy the 125 nosler bt with the pc coating thickness factored in. Why reinvent the wheel when theres a number of jacketed bullets that run perfectly in the bo. HPs im not much interested in. cast soft enough to expand my guess is most of them will be damaged feeding from the mag into the chamber. If I want hunting bullets ill buy a box of jacketed. what I want is a cast plinking bullet that feeds a 100 percent and hits @ the same point of aim as my hunting bullets do.
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    That would be good for another thread.
    I would like an all around HP bullet that could be used for plinking, hunting, sef-defense, whatever. The 300 BO subsonic group buy that MP just ran could be also be called reinventing the wheel. I would disagree. Let's keep this thread on topic.
    The 125 Nosler might be a good place to start from. It seems that the nose has to be .305" or less, coated, past the driving band to work. Would like a dedicated 300 BO crimp groove, but the without the boat tail looks good. Add gas check and lose the tip.

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    RCBS 7.62mm-130-SP. I just measured one coated with Smoke's Carolina blue - .305 just forward of the front drive band.

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    anyone running that bullet in a bo? searched all over the net for a half hour before I found ONE in stock. Rolled the dice. Hope it works. thanks for the help sundog
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    RCBS 7.62mm-130-SP. I just measured one coated with Smoke's Carolina blue - .305 just forward of the front drive band.

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    Posts not helping this group buy should go elsewhere.
    Please do not clog this thread up with non-productive posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundog View Post
    NOE 311-152-SP. This one feeds and chambers in a 'no leade' AR barrel. Forward of the driving band with Smoke's clear PC is .305. Today (maybe) I will try putting some on paper.

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    guess the barnes posts were on topic. Your getting a free bump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Smale View Post
    guess the barnes posts were on topic. Your getting a free bump.
    In that the Barnes bullet may be considered as the basis of this design, I would disagree. One thing for sure, there is no interest in a 311410, nose is too fat.

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    Lots of 300BO shooters out there would be interested in a proper boolit just for BO.

    It is too good of an idea to let it just die on the vine.....

    A successful BO mold would come with HP pins and blank pins for solids,
    or as an aluminum solid, so that should really be a non-issue.

    I would go for two molds without hesitation....
    Please keep the idea alive....
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    Hello Guys
    If you could pin down a specific bullet and message me dimensions I would draw up your idea and see if we could breathe some life in this buy.

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    I am pretty new to the design thing, but not new to playing with bullet shape for application. I need a 300blk mold too, and I really like the idea of no crimp grooves. Get a design that runs pc'd and id be in for a 4 cav in whatever mold material. I don't need hollowpoint.
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    Here is something to chew on.

    Do you want crimp or no crimp and do the dimensions look close to your needs??

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    Anything outside the case has to be smaller than .305" for PC and Hi Tek
    If you read the thread it will make sense
    Otherwise looks good
    I would like a crimp groove
    Would also like a no lube groove option
    Thanks

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    I will make some adjustments tonight to the drawings.
    So .305 in front of driving band with crimp
    On the hi tek do you want gas check or plain base.
    Reason I ask is if we go gas check regular lube groove for main design only hi tek option would be plain base.
    If we do hi tek gas check design only other option would be hi tek plain base with no option of lube groove.

    It would require two cutting cherries and that would mean two separate buys.

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    This has been the problem from the beginning of this thread
    If you start at .305 and add PC or even HiTek it will not chamber
    You cannot size the nose so for me the mold would be a no go
    Others may be interested
    Why not have a single design around .300 that would allow the application of PC or not ????

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    This is from post #2 in this thread

    "I shoot a 300 bo AR and have several friends with them as well. So far only about half of them will handle a bullet that is north of .305 in front of the driving band. Throw in PC and it gets even tighter, mine will not even chamber a 311413 or the 311410. I have moved to a 311414, as it allows for a coat of PC and will still fit the bore. If you own an AR that will chamber it, more power to you."

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    So do we want to be .304 in front just for some fudge factor?
    I know pc coating thickness can vary.

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    One last thing whatever we draw up we need to be able to hit the pin count so we need a design many will jump on with.
    We have consolidated sizes so we pick one size.
    Reason for this on a gas check bullet is if there are different diameters chosen made with the same cherry you will end up with a gas check shank that’s too loose to tight or just right.
    The cherry is cut for one spec and non adjustable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasalmonslayer View Post
    So do we want to be .304 in front just for some fudge factor?
    I know pc coating thickness can vary.
    Figure PC is .002
    So the closer to .300 the better
    As stated, when I started this thread, I was hoping for a dedicated
    300 BO Bullet
    One size around .309
    Not something that is a Swiss Army Knife, "good for 30-30, .308, .30-06......"
    The 230 grain MP 300 BO group buy was a good size response
    Thanks
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check