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Thread: Ways to improve accuracy with a win model 94?

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    Boolit Master
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    Yep, if you really wanted to shrink the groups, rear peep and front post. I never altered my pre-64 as the buckhorns are made for minute of deer at any of the ranges. Your good as is.

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    I can also attest to the improved groups due to a rear aperture and a blade front.

    Some years ago, a fellow had a '94 which shot like yours does, but cast went about 3-4" as I recall. He really wanted to shoot cast more than anything, so we slugged the barrel and were not surprised to find a couple of tight spots. The barrel was then pressure lapped to clean it up. Jacketed did somewhat better and the cleaning chore was noticeably easier. Cast really came into it's own and he could do 1" from a bench and the results were repeatable. IIRC, the load was a 150gr Lyman 311266 Loverin design cast of quenched WW's, gas-checked and point flattened to a .2" meplat for tubular mags, lubed with MTL (red wax lube containing Teflon) over 26.5gr of AA2015 and a standard large rifle primer. They were pleasant but spoke with authority and he busted a lot of cow pies and hedge apples when walking around the farm. One thing which helped with shooting cast was to be sure the boolit heels are flat and square and the checks go on squarely. In this day of powder coated cast, it would seem the lubing and gas checks could be done away with, but I haven't gone there yet.

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    I fashioned a scout scope mount for my 94 using a custom weaver base secured to the forend band and a dovetail filler block. Still the best group I got was 2". I discovered (again) that i detest scout scope set ups so back to the peep sights for me. It's a 38-55 now and once I get the boolit fit right I'll be happy with 2" groups @ 100 yes. It's a close range thumper so that accuracy level is just fine.

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    One of the biggest problems with lever guns is the magazine, every shot fired changes the weight in the mag. A customer made a two shot 94 with a very short mag and was getting 1" groups.

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    I had two 94 30/30 rifles 40years ago that would both group into 2 inch or less with WW 170gr silver tips, I just wish I still had them. If you get your rifle to shoot better than that 2 inches I would love to know what you did. Regards Stephen

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    My Win 94 is 0rd at 60yds. Off rest with 150gr Hornady and Lyman 66 it will do a inch/ 5 shot. I have Marlin 336
    Maurader with Lyman 66 that will edge it a little. OPs gun probably shoots better than stock sights allow. I've had many pre 64 M94s and although not target guns they all shot well both 30/30s & 32win. I've had 25/35 &
    38/55 but they were not in the best condition to shoot groups.

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    Try 30 grains IMR 4064 under a 150 grain Sierra. This is a legit 1" load in my Marlins, see no reason why a 94 wouldn't like it.
    Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, .30 WCF, .45-70 Gov't.

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    pietro offers good advice. Don't shoot a 2-piece stocked rifle with the fore end on a sandbag. The fore end is attached to the barrel. At a minimum hold it as he said, but I've found the best rifle rest for anything that recoils enough to bounce off a firm bag is a rolled up sleeping bag. The weight of the rifle sinks the gun into the bag enough to stabilize it, and the bag is so soft the rifle doesn't bounce upward in recoil.

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check