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View Poll Results: 30-30 - Bore rider or LFN nose

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  • Bore rider

    5 26.32%
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Thread: Is your favorite 30-30 bullet a bore rider or LFN/WFN?

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    Is your favorite 30-30 bullet a bore rider or LFN/WFN?

    Hey all,

    I have noticed that 30-30 cast boolits shake out into bore rider noses and LFN/WFN noses that fill the throat - but don't have a bore riding nose. Which nose profile is your favorite?

    I am mostly concerned about 30-30 lever actions (especially Marlins) rather than bolt actions and single shots.

    Thanks

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    Boolit Grand Master popper's Avatar
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    Never tried a bore rider in Marlin.
    Whatever!

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    I use the lee 309-150-fn and the Lyman 31141 in my Winchester 94.

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    My favorite is the RCBS 180 Silhouette bore rider. I shoot this in a 94 Winchester pre 64. It shoots great.

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    "Salient rules: Heavier the boolit, less twist is needed; more pointed a boolit, less twist is needed; longer the boolit, more twist is needed; the windier the condition, more twist is needed; longer the range, more twist is needed; more of a boattail, more twist is needed; more hollow the point, less twist is needed." ... felix

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    Ranchdog FNs 150g & 170g

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    The awesome old Lyman 31141

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    It's interesting that the votes so far show a large preference for the LFN nose - yet lots of people like the 311041 - which is a bore rider nose... as are the NOE 312-151-RN, 2nd gen RD with the 0.300" diameter nose and the Lee 309-150-FN... All of these have a bore riding nose around 0.3" diameter to center the bullet into the rifling.

    The early RD had the LFN nose that ran full bullet diameter to fill up the throat in early 30-30's..

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    Perhaps this sketch will help.

    The key thing is the nose running close to bore diameter which is designed to pilot the bullet centered in the rifling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattw View Post
    The awesome old Lyman 31141
    Lee's knock off, the C309-170-F also does pretty well.

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    I'm going to try the C309 Lee trio sized to .311" in my Marlin soon I hope. It didn't care for .309" much.

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    First, the 30/30 doesn't allow much boolit outside the neck. IMHO a 'bore rider' would have at least a cal worth in the bore, not including the taper nose. A long 'cruise missile' type just doesn't fit. Is it best to have small portion of the nose close to bore dia to aid alignment? yes.
    Whatever!

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    I use 2 NOE bullets interchangeably in my 2 30-30 rifles. The 311440 & the clone of RCBS 30-180-FN. I don't feel lacking for anything. They fit the my bores with their nose perfectly.
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    Accurate 31-171D fits the Marlin throat

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    In a Winchester 94 the front end engraves like Eley Tenex in your Winchester 52

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    Also available in a 155-grain plain base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by popper View Post
    First, the 30/30 doesn't allow much boolit outside the neck. IMHO a 'bore rider' would have at least a cal worth in the bore, not including the taper nose. A long 'cruise missile' type just doesn't fit. Is it best to have small portion of the nose close to bore dia to aid alignment? yes.
    THIS

    John Browning designed the 1894 Winchester's guts to pivot downward out of the receiver to allow feeding of the .30-30's length in what amounted to a re-hash of the handy, pistol-caliber 1892 action. Outside of custom single shots, its common launch pads aren't really geared toward a long nose format - which is OK because there's a lot of neck to put your weight in.
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    I use this one for all of my .30s, which cycles and works just fine.
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