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    357 lever gun

    Do you guys use gas check boolits in your lever gun ? I bought a Rossi the other day and don't know what to cast.

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    I don't but I do PC range scrap and only use 13g of 2400.
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    I use a gas checked 358156 Lyman and 2400 in my miroku 92. I use a gas checked bullet and a plain based one in my 32/20 depending on the muzzle velocity. I have used a plain baYvonnesed bullet in the .357 but worry about leading.

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    I shoot Lee 358158 over 8 gr AA#5 out of my Miroku 1873 Winchester and my Marlin 1894CS for just under 1400 fps with no gs. I have some PB gaschecks, but have not used them. At first I was using Lyman super moly lube but the last couple years I've used Hi-Tec super coat and get NO leading. Haven't tried to push them harder. My alloy is COWW plus some tin.

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    Gas checked 358156 for my hotter loads, plain based 358-150-RN for slower stuff
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    For 1:30 twist Rossi:

    LEE 358-158-RF in a 6 banger, has no gascheck..

    Alloy WW air cooled or water dropped depending on the pressure..

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    I use the Lee 158gr-RF in my Rossi, many use the 125 gr Lee-RF as well. The Rossi is a strong rifle and takes loads I would never put in a converted Winchester 92. Regards Stephen

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    for light loads no but anything over 1000fps yes, remember in a longer barrel you gain a couple of hundred fps. my win94 likes heavier boolits your rossi might not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenbender View Post
    Do you guys use gas check boolits in your lever gun ? I bought a Rossi the other day and don't know what to cast.
    I'm on the fence for a Rossi M92 38/357 as well, care to share how much they go for nowadays?

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    Not for 38 special but I do for 357.
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    Depends, If it is a gas check boolit, I put one on and drive it hard. If not, I don't.
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    I'm experimenting with .357 in a Rossi and powder coating. So far I can get pretty high velocity with air cooled wheel weight alloy and no gas check. I've been using Alliant 300MP and mag primers.

    A 125 grain bullet will go just over 2000 fps and no leading. A 158 grainer will go just over 1900 fps.

    I don't know about any accuracy claims though. I played with a chronograph first. Then I'll see what kind of groups I can get.

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    I have a modified Lyman 156gr that I had lube grooves removed from and it drops cast at 172gr without G/C. I have not tried this one as yet, I coat all my cast with HI-TEK coating and use no G/Cs and get no leading up to 1,700fps. I hope to try the Lyman and the RCBS 180gr and 200gr when I get the chance as I believe in heavy for calibre with cast except my 458wm which loves all weights. Regards Stephen

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    I don't cast them but buy the 125 grain FN bullets for my Rossi and then treat them with Lee Liquid Alox for a coating. Loaded with 14 gr of 2400 they don't seem to lead. I don't use 38 special cases in my Rossi. I have found that the use of a coating seems to cut back on leading. I don't load my 357 very hot as I have better rifles for any need that a hot loaded 357 might be used for.


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    I haven't used gas checks on pistol boolits in some time. They certainly help increase the upper limit of shooting cast, but if I'm going to go to the trouble of buying and using them, I'll go the next step up and eliminate the leading issue. I paper patch, size and tumble lube the plain base Lee 358-158-RF (zero leading) and drive them hard with 16gr of 2400 which gives me 1800+ fps out of a 20" Rossi '92. The advent of dry/tumble powder coating has my attention these days and it seems a likely shortcut to the no leading goal. For naked/lubed (with Carnauba Red) boolits I have to back off a good bit due to streaky leading with air cooled WW's - nothing too bad at 1400 fps or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmerjim View Post
    Depends, If it is a gas check boolit, I put one on and drive it hard. If not, I don't.
    I do this same thing.
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    Haven't leaded anything that is PC coated. From my 9mm, to my 22tcm at 1900+fpm to my 357 rossi. 158 gr mid to high load with h110.
    But is a hoot with 142 gr in light load about 5.3gr with sr4756. Fun load for plinking

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    For my range and plinking loads powder coat plan base with no gas check. For me it depends on the bullet weight and speed. Lighter loads I am pushing fast GC. Heavier slower load no GC.

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    I use a GC for .357s in my Marlin and get the speed on up.
    The flat base mold seems to only get used for .38Spec.
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    I shoot RanchDog 190 made for 35 Remington. Accurate and awesome on critters. Crimp on ogive.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
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LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
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