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Thread: Herco in 45 acp

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    Herco in 45 acp

    I'd like to try Herco in my 45s with a 230 lrn boolit. Alliant has no data; any recommendations?
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    From the Alliant website:
    45 Auto 230 gr Speer LRN Speer OAL =1.27 5.0 CCI 300 Herco 6.4 Max. 845

    Source: http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloade...6&cartridge=35

    From the castpics.net website(by powder):

    AL Herco 45 ACP 230 230 L (Target) 5.2 Max. 815 OAL=1.19 13600 Alliant

    Source: http://castpics.net/dpl/index.php/re...okup-by-powder

    You may want to go look at the sources to verify for yourself, as well as bookmark them both.


    Note the OAL are different.


    Start low (- 10%) and work up the load, would be my suggestion.

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    I have a PDF file of an Alliant manual from 2001 that has many listing for powders not found on the manufacturers website currently. It has listings for Herco as well as several other powders.
    PM me with your email and I can send it to you. 1 megabyte file.
    I got it from the Castpics website a few years ago. They no longer have the older manuals available there.

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    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...online-sources

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    JBs max load of 5.2gr.@ 1.19 is what is listed in my 2005 Alliant Powder Guide for the lead 230 RN. Good shooting. Gp

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    The Speer Number 12 Manual
    260 grain Speer JHP
    Herco powder
    Starting load: 6.3 grains / 775 fps
    Max load: 6.9 grains / 847 fps
    A few years ago I loaded the LEE 255 grain rnfp, for some heavy 45 acp loads.
    I Chrony'd these loads with 6.8 grains of Herco at 917 fps average 10 shots.
    The 260 grain JHP .listed is .680 in length.
    The LEE 255 grain rnfp, is .600 in length.
    So, in maintaining the C.O.L of 1.200 ( which the book states) the load with the LEE 255 grain, has .080 more room between the base of the bullet, and the top of the powder charge. So, you don't have to be concerned about a pressure spike from bullet length.
    I did call Speer, and ask if the data printed was correct, and not a misprint. The technician assured me that the data was correct.
    I use Herco in my 45 Colt cartridge. It meters better for me than Unique. It fills the case with more volume. Gives good velocities, and burns clean. I also use Herco in my .41 magnum, for plinking / medium heavy loads. It works great.
    I also use it in my 12 ga. slug loads. A very versatile powder.
    Regards.

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    Thanks to all! I'm happy with my 800x loads. but I got a deal on the Herco and wanted to try it.
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