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    All the time lost, Never going back.

    After picking out and standing up probably 100k PC projectiles. I finally tried something different.
    I made some trays out of expanded metal lath.
    Using these the air soft BB’s and powder will screen through with a couple side to side shakes.

    https://i.imgur.com/zkKGz0u.jpg
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    It just so happened a cookie tin lid fit great for a catch pan.
    After a quick sift the tray goes in the oven.
    Be ready with a towel with parchment paper on top.
    Take out the tray from the oven while the oven is still on so everything is still as hot as possible.
    Flip over the tray onto the parchment paper and all the projectiles will come loose from the tray.
    While still hot, roll around the ones stuck together to separate.

    https://i.imgur.com/MpdI1ia.jpg

    I can’t believe how many hours I wasted standing all those things up one by one.
    I always told myself it was worth the time to get that quality coating.
    But all of the time I’m saving, a few nicks are worth it.

    Now I need a larger oven.

    PS: now that photo bucket is charging, I'm trying a different photo sharing program and can't figure out how embed a photo. So this is the best I could do.
    Last edited by Pablo 5959; 01-27-2019 at 10:08 AM. Reason: PS

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    I tried the dump method and it is faster, but the since powder flows the coating is heaver on one side. I also didn't like the bare spots or the spot where they touch, on my bullets. In a day I can coat, stand & cure literally thousands of bullets, enough to keep me shooting for a very long time and my bullets are about as perfect as PC bullets can get. So I guess to each his own, but for me I will take quality over quantity every time.

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    I still stand mine up one at a time. I'm not in a hurry when I powdercoat, and the finished product is a really nice boolit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psweigle View Post
    I still stand mine up one at a time. I'm not in a hurry when I powdercoat, and the finished product is a really nice boolit.
    My opinion exactly, however, it's a hobby so set your own standards and enjoy the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonheart View Post
    I tried the dump method and it is faster, but the since powder flows the coating is heaver on one side. I also didn't like the bare spots or the spot where they touch, on my bullets. In a day I can coat, stand & cure literally thousands of bullets, enough to keep me shooting for a very long time and my bullets are about as perfect as PC bullets can get. So I guess to each his own, but for me I will take quality over quantity every time.
    To all respondents so far.
    It's true that standing each And every one gives a little better quality.
    And I always told myself it was worth the time spent. But..
    This technique comes vary close in quality.
    Under close scrutiny with a lighted magnifying glass and a micrometer, I did not find the coating any thicker on one side.
    Also after sizing, the micro-grooves appear consistent.
    When it only takes 2 minutes to have a tray ready for the oven. I can return to casting before the mold cools.
    Standing every one would take me longer to get a tray ready then the oven takes to cycle a tray.

    I'm not here to advise anyone or to change minds already made.

    But if anyone looking for a faster way with inexpensive, good quality results this may be an option.
    Pablo.

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    I do basically the same thing. 5-10 pounds of boolits piled on a tray made of 1/4" hardware cloth.

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    Standing my bullets up is like therapy, and good hand eye coordination training for an old guy.

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    Standing them back up takes most of my time. Try heavy small bore rifle boolits.
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    I stand all mine up. I tried your method before but I ended up with uneven coating and many bullets stuck together. between time it took me to break them apart and rejects that had to be remelted I dont think i gained anything there so I went back to standing them up.

    If it works for you though, thats great i think you can make a case for either method.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marek313 View Post
    I stand all mine up. I tried your method before but I ended up with uneven coating and many bullets stuck together. between time it took me to break them apart and rejects that had to be remelted I dont think i gained anything there so I went back to standing them up.

    If it works for you though, thats great i think you can make a case for either method.
    Sticking together is a problem.
    That’s why I suggested separating while hot as possible.
    I may suggest, restandings up a whole tray of skinnies because of a slight bump on the way to the oven is not therapeutic.
    But that’s just me.
    Pablo

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    the dump method works with the right powder -- not all powder are suitable for it.
    These were dumped



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    Quote Originally Posted by Conditor22 View Post
    the dump method works with the right powder -- not all powder are suitable for it.
    These were dumped


    Those look great! What powder/bake temp time?

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    I made mine from hardware cloth

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    Yes, I also would like to know the powder and cure temp & time?

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    As far as keeping bullets from toppling if you don't have steady hands try using a bakers cooling rack with an appropriate grid size for your bullets. In addition to keeping bullet in place it can maximize the number of bullets you can get on a rack by even spacing. These are 9mm.
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    I use both methods depending on the boolits. some 30 cal I take the time to stand them nose down in a 100

    count jig I made so when I spray them with powder the tips stay bare and I like the look. others for pistols

    I shake and bake and dump them on hardware cloth like the ones in the last post

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    I like the grey powder Con and Silver is that Smokes or some other brand?

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    I am fine standing them up. I use the plastic ammo tray jig to do 100-150 a pop with large tweezers to drop them into the trays. It takes me about 10m to fill 150 tray. Then invert into a screened bin for baking. 4 trays at a time are possible in my cheap pizza oven. I gotta do something for the 15m bake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by time killer View Post
    i like the grey powder con and silver is that smokes or some other brand?
    cardinal t243-gr522
    polyester tgic
    semi 60% gloss texture
    flint greyblack

    sherwin williams

    pam8 c0000 c50
    silver metalic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonheart View Post
    As far as keeping bullets from toppling if you don't have steady hands try using a bakers cooling rack with an appropriate grid size for your bullets. In addition to keeping bullet in place it can maximize the number of bullets you can get on a rack by even spacing. These are 9mm.
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