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    I actually live outside of Paw Paw, named for the fruit. Supposedly prevalent here but haven't seen any myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripplebeards View Post
    Since there is no fruit growth on my apple tree the last two years accept for the one green colored apple on one of my grafts this year itís been growing like a weed and I havenít pruned it at all trying to get some good growth on it.
    Allowing it to grow wild will actually decrease the production of fruit. Fruit trees need a serious pruning every year. Any branch growing straight up, straight out or down should be removed. Seems counter productive to remove so many branches but it really does work.
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    Except for figs - I understand that they don't like fertilization or pruning. I simply cut off those limbs that get in the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowwolfe View Post
    Allowing it to grow wild will actually decrease the production of fruit. Fruit trees need a serious pruning every year. Any branch growing straight up, straight out or down should be removed. Seems counter productive to remove so many branches but it really does work.

    I use to believe that until my dad stopped pruning his apple trees 10 plus years ago. He got WAY more bumper crops of apples every year since he stopped compared to when he pruned. I pruned a couple of his trees two years ago. Very sparingly...by the book...and both trees went from bumper crops to literally refusing to put out hardly any apples till this year. The other tree I left alone not pruning pushed more apples out than we and our neighbors could use.

    I will still prune mine because I like to train the shape of my tree but I think it doesn’t help apple production imo other than getting some breathing holes in the trees and training and customizing the shape of your tree to put out on branches convent to pick apples off of without using a ladder.

    There’s an apple tree out by my old place of employment that has NEVER been pruned since planted in 79’ it’s gotta be 40’ plus feet tall and puts out apples like no ones business. It’s next to the highway so people bring homemade apple pickers every year so snag the apples off of it.lol



    I will continue to prune mine every year accept for this past winter. I just won’t get carried away butchering my trees like I’ve done in the past. Imo pruning probably works well for an old, established apple tree to cut back on new growth so all of it energy goes to growing fruit. My tree trunk is not 3.5” yet so it has learn how to walk before it runs. I’ve pruned it every year since year one but up until two years ago it really hasn’t grown up until the last two seasons. I’ll give it a good shape this winter.
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    The problem here is that, living where you do, as the branches get longer the snow will break them off. They will break in places where you might not have pruned them, and you may introduce disease and insects to the tree.

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    Makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Gebirgsjager View Post
    The problem here is that, living where you do, as the branches get longer the snow will break them off. They will break in places where you might not have pruned them, and you may introduce disease and insects to the tree.
    Its not just snow you have to worry about. A lady up the street had a apple tree that was never pruned and packed with fruit. Tree must of been at least 25 years old. Last summer one of the main branches snapped off due to the weight of the fruit and this summer the other side collapsed. Tree is no more, sad.
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    Getting to the end of season. My only apple that grew on the whole tree was on a golden delicious scion I grafted to it three seasons ago. It produced five apples but all fell off accept for this one. I put a plastic bag around it to protect it from disease and squirrels. I still have some spotting on it that started before I put the bag on it when the apple was the size of a dime. All the flower buds on the original part of the tree never produced apples. I would assume next year will be my first year.




    Here are the two grafts. They are still holding in there and scabbed over quite well. I’ll have to prune my tree during the winter months when I can better see the shape with the leaves off of it.






    ...so 10 plus year old tree I started from a seed and ONE apple so far...from a graft. Stay tuned!

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    Well it’s that time of year! I took everyone’s advice and started some pruning even though it’s too early yet. I removed the main beam branch that was approx an 1” in diameter and towered a good 4’ above my two “u” shaped” honey crisp grafts along with removing all the little shoots coming out below my grafts. I figured the grafts will get fed better and hopefully grow quicker by removing the main beam above them. I took another good size branch of equal length out of the way that was in front if my golden delicious graft that produced and apple this year giving it room to grow. The tree looks tall and narrow now. I’ll have to grab some string and tie down a few branches to the trunk to spread them out. I ha e limited growing space in my backyard with it anyways so tall and narrow will be great for saving space and yield the most fruit I’m hoping. I’ll leave the rest of tree alone for now and might eventually shorten some of the new, long top growth over the winter once the leaves are off so it’s easier to see the shape.



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    I just finished pruning to the “main branch” style. I originally pruned this tree to a “cup” style and the biggest branch of the three took over as the main branch so I kinda custom pruned this tree. Looks good and all my grafts fall into a nice open place accept for two. Just going to have to tie them to train the grafts to grow away from the other branches...or eventually keep trimming around them. I have a good air flow and stong “pruned to” main branch system to support apples if I ever get any. It kills me to prune as I took away a good pile of branches from my tree again. I made sure not to cut too low on some of my pruning and not to remove too many buds. Fingers crossed, hope I didn’t jinx myself killing my apple production for next spring. If so the tree will at least get some good air flow. I’m not a big fan of how the other two lower branches grew more straight up instead of a 45 degree angle but no tree is perfect. I should have trained those branches to grow out more. Before I started pruning you couldn’t see through the tree so now I should have some good air flow for apple production. Just hope I don’t remove too much to not get apples this coming spring. The more I look at my tree the more if feel I butched it again.



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    Looking good,I tried to cut early one time and almost lost a pecan tree. Best year I have had my two trees have up better than a 55gallon sack of pecans it took two years to recover from my earlier cutting,so I'm wanting for a colder then normal day this time.
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    Found an old photo today dated 02/2013 with either the first or second winter I started my apple trees from seeds.


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