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Thread: Winchester Model 70 push feed: jammed safety

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    Quote Originally Posted by castaroo View Post
    Did you work it out, mate?
    Life happened in the meantime. I'll try the oil / airblast approach today.
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    Swung through to see if victory had been declared. Blew up pictures this time and really looks like rifle had been on the trail in an open buggy, kind of looks like our desert powder dust turned to a solid in there. Know anyone with an Ultrasonic cleaner?

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    I'm sure you know this but just a reminder.....the bolt must be cocked for the safety to go on. Sometimes if the trigger has been "adjusted" or it is worn the striker moves forward blocking the safety. If the safety moves at all, even a little, when the bolt is in the rifle and cocked it is blocked, not stuck.
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    Thanks, I've been ill the last few days and haven't had a chance to get to it (well, I have but couldn't be boogerd, haha).
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    I got my dad's Mod. 70 when he passed away. It had a problem somewhat like yours. Finely got it apart and found the roll pin sheared inside of the bolt. Both ends were still in the shroud but the inside sheared piece was floating around inside and would jam the safety in the fireing position. Dad had left it loaded that way for god knows how long! Try tapping the roll pin out and see if you can figure out what is going on inside of the safety.

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    How goes the battle?mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by castaroo View Post
    How goes the battle?mate
    Not that good, nothing has worked so far, Taking it to the range this afternoon, I'll have another wreste with it.
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    That doesn’t sound good mate

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    The range was so busy, I didn't get a chance to take it out of the 4wd (I'm the rifle Captain, I was running the range by myself today).
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    I'm just keeping a eye on this post , hopping to see the issue with your safety worked out .
    I have a m 70 that the safety is getting extremely hard to set back on safety from the fired position . I seam to only remember the problem when I take it out of the gun cabinet , I better get on it before it gets any worse .

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    Lately, life has been geting in the way of fixing rifle safety issues unfortunately.
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    Understood Sr. - Wish you well .

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    And the battle still on going i take it?

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    We battled it again at the range yesterday without success.
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    From my Irish Ancestors: "You've got to do your own growing, no matter how tall your grandfather was."

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    Any updates on the safety issue?

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    All efforts have failed so far, looks like it's a job for the gunsmith to drill out the roll pin on the shroud.
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    Psycholigist to Sniper; 'What did you feel when you shot the felon Sargeant?'
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    Has it been fixed yet?

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    Funny you should mention it, I bought some super penetrating spray, etc the other day, but am so crippled up with my back at the moment, I wouldn't get back up the front steps if I went out to the truck to get it. My Nissan Patrol wagon is virtually a shooting trap and is full of tools and other equipment. My wife is Chinese and her English is Chinglish, I'd be wasting my time sending her down for it, haha. It took me about three goes to get her to bring me a cushion off the lounge. She has other good points though and is lighting the fire as we speak.
    "I'll help you down the trail and proud to!" Rooster Cogburn.

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    Psycholigist to Sniper; 'What did you feel when you shot the felon Sargeant?'
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    From my Irish Ancestors: "You've got to do your own growing, no matter how tall your grandfather was."

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    And you being a young man with a crook back? Mmmm something fishy about this i would say

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    Quote Originally Posted by castaroo View Post
    And you being a young man with a crook back? Mmmm something fishy about this i would say
    Yep, 71 years young.
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    Psycholigist to Sniper; 'What did you feel when you shot the felon Sargeant?'
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    From my Irish Ancestors: "You've got to do your own growing, no matter how tall your grandfather was."

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