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Thread: Arisaka type 38 markings over the chrysanthemum identification/help

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    Boolit Mold
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    Arisaka type 38 markings over the chrysanthemum identification/help

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    I have been restoring a old type 38 and can't find any info on the marking over the chrysanthemum, any input would be helpfull.

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    Boolit Master
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    I believe that is the date of manufacture, but thats about all the help I can be.

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    They are cancellation marks, denoting that the rifle was no longer the property of the Imperial Japanese Army, but had been sold out of service to another country or a training school.

    ukrifleman

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    ukrifleman is correct.
    Those markings are very common, and indicate the rifle has been removed from military service.
    About 100,000 Type 30 and Type 38 rifles were removed from service and sold to England during the early years of WWI, they mostly ended up in Russia and in Finland.
    Also after WWI, many older Type 38 rifles were removed from military service and delegated for training at secondary schools and colleges during the 1920's and 1930's.

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    Look at the serial number on the left side of the receiver.
    If it is a school training rifle it will have 000 added in front of the serial number. I have a type 38 so marked with 000 added in a different font ahead of the SN.
    EDG

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