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Thread: Hate when this happens.. 357-44, not 357

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    Hate when this happens.. 357-44, not 357

    I got a nice looking TC barrel at a gun show a few months back from an individual (cash and carry). It was an odd (to me) .357 barrel with a rib and a flip up rear sight and elevation adjustable front sight. Guessing something for a silhouette guy but it has a screw in shot shell choke and is ported.

    Well when I go to plunk a 357 mag into it, it falls into a hole much to big for a .357. Chamber cast reveals it has been reamed to 357-44 Bain&Davis. Interesting round but nobody even makes dies for it anymore. I guess I have a new paper weight until I stumble across the B&D dies someplace. Not worth investing a ton of money into.

    I hate when things like this happen. I could have spent that $150 on something more useful.

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    There is a set of dies on eBay
    2 days left sitting at $41 right now
    Not mine
    Hope this helps


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    Saw that, just the sizing die, no seating die.

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    Contender barrel I assume. Rifle or pistol ?

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    10" heavy pistol barrel.. Sorry, TC just universally means Thompson Contender for me.

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    have it drilled and rechambered.

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    Have you checked with Dave at CH4D. He catalogs a lot of odd and forgotten calibers. james

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    I just got nice 357-44 B&D dies from CH4D. Cases form with one stroke in the sizer die.

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    That was a HotShot barrel originally. The shot loads were about 2" long if I remember correctly. Study case dimensions; you may be able to use .357 Herret dies- not common but probably easier to find than the B&D dies. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    That was a HotShot barrel originally. The shot loads were about 2" long if I remember correctly. Study case dimensions; you may be able to use .357 Herret dies- not common but probably easier to find than the B&D dies. Good luck!

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    Did chamber cast. It's B&D. I have a 357 Herret barrel and that brass isn't close.

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    Man I must be a fool, I spent money having a 357 rechambered to 357-44 Bain and Davis.
    Former cylindersmith.

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    If it were me. I would resale it. Maybe here.
    eBay or other places.
    Might get more than you paid. Maybe loose a few dollars. Or break even.
    That way you donít spend extra dollars on a caliber you donít even want. You donít sound like you are even interested in the caliber so
    Let it go. And be on the watch for something you like.



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    Sounds like it was somebody's project barrel.
    I have a 357 hotshot barrel, never really shot it much. I had to throat the chamber to accept the CCI Shotshells. The square plastic shot charge wouldn't chamber. The original ones from T/C were round nose. Never did like the sights on either.

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    357 hot shot barrel is a new one on me. I didn't know they made one all I've ever had was 44s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cas View Post
    Man I must be a fool, I spent money having a 357 rechambered to 357-44 Bain and Davis.
    If I didn't already have a 357 Herret barrel, all the brass I can ever shoot and dies then the 357 B&D would have some interest. If I found some cheap dies it would still be fun to play with but I don't want to buy set of dies that cost more than the barrel to be able to do less than I can already. I have other .357 Mag barrels and the Herret barrel so this one doesn't help a lot. It also has the dual position rear sight that would be cool if I was into silhouette seriously which I'm not either. I thought I'd be ably to play at the silhouette range (informally) with the dual position sight and just load up 38 specials for it. At least that's what I was thinking when I handed over my money. It'll most likely be traded or sold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drm50 View Post
    357 hot shot barrel is a new one on me. I didn't know they made one all I've ever had was 44s.
    I don't really know what this barrel is. It is like a hotshot but not. I have a 45/410 barrel if I want to shoot shot. Also have a.44mag with the screw on choke for .44 shot loads.
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    Someone already mentioned CH4D so I'll just say DITTO on their quality.
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    Does the internal choke have straight grooves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    Does the internal choke have straight grooves?

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    As near as I can tell, yes.

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    I know next to nothing about Contenders but I do remember those being advertised. The ribbed choke was to halt the spin of the shot capsule to create a shot pattern. The rear sight folded for wing shooting. If you can't sell it; stub it to something neat.

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