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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobade View Post
    Funny that shoe polish and floor wax is preferred over something specifically designed as a release agent for epoxy bedding rifles. I'll never understand some of this logic.
    good old American commercialism. Why recommend a product that is inexpensive and readily available when you can package a product in a container that says "i'm special' and sell it for vastly more per application.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Pete View Post
    good old American commercialism. Why recommend a product that is inexpensive and readily available when you can package a product in a container that says "i'm special' and sell it for vastly more per application.


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    Don't you think that's pretty mean spirited, especially when you don't have your facts straight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishFritz View Post
    Don't forget to fill holes and voids with modeling clay where you don't want the glass to go. I like to thin paste wax with paint thinner and paint it on to be sure you get into every tiny area.

    Undiluted paste wax readily fills any voids/holes or sharp corners that can lock the action into the stock of bedding compound enters them - AND, it's very easy to clean out of those same areas after the bedding's cured.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobade View Post
    Don't you think that's pretty mean spirited, especially when you don't have your facts straight?
    sorry if you are offended. How about elaborating on "the facts"


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    The blue stuff that comes in the box work well.
    Hell, I was there!

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    When you have to freeze a stuck action to remove it from a stock, you will learn how to apply release agent properly!! Hahaha!! Release agents are simply a barrier, so use what you want to use, just be prepared if it doesn’t do it’s intended job. Plan B sorta stuff, ya know! One thing about sticking one in a stock, if you ever do get it loose,boy it will be tightly bedded!! Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobade View Post
    Funny that shoe polish and floor wax is preferred over something specifically designed as a release agent for epoxy bedding rifles. I'll never understand some of this logic.
    There are two reasons...
    1. Personal preference.
    Some people just 'Like' to do things a certain way...
    Some perfer blonds, some perfer brunettes, some are masochistic and perfer redheads...


    2. As some of us have found along the way, nearly the exact same ingredients used in waxes/polishes are used in some 'Release' products.
    Why pay more money for less product when it's labeled 'Release' instead of 'Polish' or 'Wax'.

    A third possibility is consistency.
    While 'Release' agents come & go, change formulas without warning,
    The old floor wax has been the same formula for 80 years with no sign of changing...
    You KNOW where it's going to work and where it's going to try and stick.

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    I've used PVA in the past (Poly-Vinyl Alcohol) but then I had a bunch from making Fiberglass Canoes etc.

    Cleans up with hot water.

    Lots of other things work well, too. Best to test the first time you use something as a release with your particular bedding compound.

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    In this country it is hard to get many of the proper products, I find Kiwi neutral boot polish works fine on the many rifles I have bedded with Devcon. I agree that one should test on scrap first when doing substitutes as it is a proper you know what getting an action out of a stock after its been glued in. Regards Stephen

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    I saw on one youtube video where the presenter says he uses the Hornady One Shot Case lube (in the aerosol can).

    2 coats with drying time in between.

    I have not used it to bed a rifle but i have tried it when i bedded a scope base using JB Weld and it worked a treat. The base popped right off with a light blow from my wooden mould mallet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobade View Post
    Funny that shoe polish and floor wax is preferred over something specifically designed as a release agent for epoxy bedding rifles. I'll never understand some of this logic.
    It's a Redneck thing....I've used Johnson's Paste Wax for release agent, in boolit lube, to wax my guns but have never used it to wax wood floors !
    Use two or three coats for a release agent .... put lots on any screw threads that might get glassed

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    I use paste wax also.. applied with a small chip brush.. for two very scientific reasons...

    1. It works for me

    2. I’ve already got two cans of it.

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    I've used paste wax.It works fine.I currently use the blue liquid that Brownell's sells as release agent works fine as well.Just get a good coverage and let the release agent dry before bedding.I've never had problem with it.
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    There is no learning curve with JPW it works every time all the time .

    I have used it for years on many glass beds and have never had a problem .

    I use an old tooth brush to apply it to the stock cavity and the stock screws .

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    I have used good old fashioned bearing grease with good success. It's a matter of what you have on hand.

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    I have used Pam, Spray case lube, JPW, shoe polish and specific release agent and ALL OF THEM work and work very well. (As long as enough is applied and complete coverage is achieved) It makes NO NEVERMIND what the name of the product is. As long as it stops the beddings ability to bond where you have applied your choice of product, your good to go.

    As for the beddings, some products are not as hard as others when cured, On a HPR I want a pretty hard bedding so Acra Glass, Devcon aluminum have both worked real good for me. JB also works, but isn't as "glass" hard as previous two. I just bedded my B-Mag using JB mostly cause my Devcon dried up and I didn't have enough Acra Glass left... But also its a rim fire and Im sure that he JB will do a fine long term job.

    Good luck to all

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    Devcon 10110, and Kiwi neutral shoe polish, 50+ stocks can't be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CamoWhamo View Post
    I saw on one youtube video where the presenter says he uses the Hornady One Shot Case lube (in the aerosol can).

    2 coats with drying time in between.
    That is absolutely hilarious. I would have never thought you could get away with that. I would be way too scared of screwing that up. I've bedded one Boyds stock, and I just used the paste wax that came with it. Three layers with some buffing in between the and action popped right out.
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    It actually works very well... I use it all the time for small pieces and parts and JB. Tangs or bottom metal fitting. never stuck anything.

    NO buffing, no troubles.. Spray let dry, spray again let dry and work...

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    Plain old heavy bearing grease works as good as anything, and easier to get into tight places than paste wax too. The last bedding compound kit I bought had a little tin marked "release agent" and when I opened it inside the tin was axle grease. I chuckled, as I've used that for decades, and never had a stuck stock.

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