A 30-30 m700 is as near as your loading bench if you have one in .300 Savage, .308, or .30-06. Fixed it for you.
A 30-30 m700 is as near as your loading bench if you have one in .300 Savage, .308, or .30-06. Fixed it for you.
I see the Savage 340 in 30-30 fairly regularly, online. Occasionally I see the more rare version in .222. Interestingly the mag used is the same. Of course I don't think it would be a help to you, as it's in Canada. I bought one once as I was intrigued with the idea of running one at higher pressure with a spitzer.
A little reading however confirmed that the rifle wasn't a strong action, and the bullets either seemed to be too light for much ballistic advantage or heavier and designed for higher velocity. It was pretty clearly a budget rifle of the day, compared to the higher priced guns. It didn't cycle badly, but wasn't a prize, and I hated the way the safety felt. It wasn't intuitive which way was "safe", and seems only held by friction. Bought a side mount for a scope for it, and mounted a old Armsport fixed 4X on it. Was a good match, and it seemed like it showed promise as a shooter, but the trigger was gritty and creepy. Got it with 2 magazines, which functioned well enough, but I always had trouble getting the newer looking mag to click into place.
Had a decent looking piece of wood underneath the varnish; and I worked around the stamped checkering, and stained it lighter. I wasn't in love with it, though and decided that someone else might get more enjoyment out of it.
I wouldn't bother with one of the Savage Axis rifles, though some seem to like them. If you are bound and determined to tinker with them, they are cheap. I wouldn't have a problem with the higher class Savages, and would buy one with no misgivings. Actually did, as a local store had a really good sale on. Compared it side by side with a Ruger Gunsite Scout, but that the Ruger had a very small chip in the fore end and the barrel did not look completely centered convinced me to pick up the Savage. I should have bought the Scout, as I probably would have kept it. Sold the Savage unfired to a friend, as I didn't find a scope mount, and decided I'd rather have a 7mm RM, than a .300 WM, and I had few 30 cal rifles already.
The consumer does it to themselves. We won't pay good money for a nice gun when we can get something made overseas for cheaper. Never liked the feel of the Winchester levers, though I never shot a pre 64 lever much. I believe Dad had one in .218 Bee. I always liked the Marlins, and I think Dad preferred them also.
Probably in about one year everything I bought had a problem right out of the box.
Bought a rebadged Hatsan air rifle, but after a while the trigger or anti bear trap mechanism failed making it near impossible to get to fire. Went back to Cabelas and they exchanged it quickly. Hatsan despite being able to sell guns pretty cheaply are fairly well regarded. Although I traded up to a PCP gun. The PCP has a worse trigger, but easier to shoot for me vs. a magnum springer.
Had a Norinco pump shotgun. It was one of the "780" guns. Though the newer ones are supposed to be decent, this one was a poorly made piece of junk. Sent it back, but came back the same. Eventually found someone who had a use for it. Have a couple of other Norcs that are decent.
Bought a Uberti 1873. Nice gun, but when I first took it out, I found the cylinder holes out of spec, and experienced high pressures and sticking brass. The store sent it back, and it came back fairly quickly with the cylinder in spec. At no cost.
Got a Savage model 40 in .22 Hornet. Technically, not NIB, but off a guy that shot about 1/2 shells before breaking the extractor. Probably could have got Savage to fix it, but it was an easy and cheap part to fix, and I just honed the rough chamber myself to fix it.
Buying new stuff just to have a never owned item is the wrong way to look at it. You can buy much higher quality used stuff if you know what to look for and you are patient.
Though I can't afford to buy many rifles I found that above about $800 for a used rifle will buy spectacular bargains. Below that everyday shooters are competing with you. Above $800 seems to weed out the majority of the buyers and you can find good deals in used rifles and OU shotguns.
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AndyB1; I will NEVER buy another Schultz &Larsen rifle. They won't answer their phone!
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30-30
Why the obsession with a repeater?
A decent accurate 30-30 gets the job done in the hunting field with one shot.
That said; Ruger No1 , Encore with custom barrel properly throated, Henry new single shot.
Or buy a Henry repeater. Next to Springfeild they THE best product warranty on Mother Earth.
That said when companies are owned by huge investment firms they have responsibility to the stock holders and that is PROFIT above anything else. Nuff said about Remington ,Marlin or any of the Freedom Group Holdings.......
Yeah, I think the Henry is the best option for a nice lever now.
Or maybe an old Marlin from the 70s or 80s. If you want to spend money on something, and mount a scope, I think an old Marlin is the thing to do it on. Get it reblued, Cerakoted, or parkerized. Put on a nice laminate stock, or a nice piece of maple or walnut. Have the receiver colour case hardened... Drooling a little thinking about that, now. Custom wood and case hardening...
Now that's something everyone can enjoy!
If you have the money the Japanese Winchesters are the way to go.
If you want speed and are willing to shoot standard pressure, a SASS tuned 73 is cannot be beat.
After that it is all downhill in current production.
Most of the time when I’m looking to buy a new manufactured rifle, I’m looking for it to be a base gun that I’ll turn into something else.
I will say that the 7 Remington 700 classics I own have been very good rifles. Accurate enough, and easy to carry if I hunted anymore.
So have I sworn off a brand, not particularly. If I want something special then I’ll call the man in Arkansas to make it.
"Henry new single shot" . Now there is a 30-30 for about $400 in the real world and that would be cheaper that having a bolt face reworked and the feed rails massaged. The ones I've seen on Gunbroker had fairly nice walnut stocks. Has anybody here shot one of these new Henry's yet?
IT AINT what ya shoot--its how ya shoot it. NONE of us are as smart as ALL of us!
Hmm, that's what I thought too. I emailed Henry to ask about a 45 colt with a 1/20" twist but they politely told me that it was not in their plans at this time. Of course you can always down load the 45/70 to Colt speeds. You are right, $400 would buy a nice 336 but the little Henry looks very handy. I cant find one in my area to see in person.
IT AINT what ya shoot--its how ya shoot it. NONE of us are as smart as ALL of us!
Some bolt guns in 30-30 - https://www.gunbroker.com/Bolt-Actio...w=1&ca=5000053
Sadly some lever guns are listed in there too, sigh.
I wont buy a RUGER ! had 2 rifles , one was a #3 with head seperations and the other a bolt very poor accuracy! they said headspace was within spec but you could close the action on a no go guage, the m77 went back 2 times for repair they put it in a new stock recrowned the barrel which looked like it was done with a chamfering tool and and some mod to another part, best group was 1" at 50 yards. Traded
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |