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    What does De-Milled mean???
    Any technology not understood, can seem like Magic!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markopolo View Post
    What does De-Milled mean???
    De-Militarized
    The ENEMY is listening.
    HE wants to know what YOU know.
    Keep it to yourself.

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    You mean that a soldier can bring home a captured weapon from Afghanistan??? They sure wouldn’t let us do that back in the 1970’s... although lots of folks tried and some even successfully.
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    No, a General Order was put out that no individuals can bring back any weapons. Our unit brought back a few captured weapons but they had to be "given" to the museum which reissued them back to us for display. They said they could not be demilled, but they kept the firing pins, and every now and then they come to inventory them.
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    Demilling requires lots of paperwork that goes up to Star Fleet command, barrels plugged and breech welded after paperwork comes back. Goes home and hangs in the unit and placed on property books.

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    Lol.. I like that “Star fleet command”.. that de-milling thing just sucks.. might as well put them in a pit, and blow them up with other captured ordinance.... but I bet a guy could get some cool parts...

    Thanks CD, for the looks at what your doing over there, and your service. Your posts are always interesting and I look forward to them. Please keep it up. Prayers sent for your safety! You do get to play with some cool toys though. After checking your in country years, you must be doing something you enjoy, and are making a difference.

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    Took couple young soldiers to the range today for a history lesson. Took three rifles SMLE III (Enfield, 1914), P14* (Remington, 1917) and a No.4 MkI* (Longbranch,1944)
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    Out of 12 rounds, 6 had sterile head stamps other 6 had this pattern around it.
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    Out of those 6, 3 were misfires and struck 2 more times for no ignition. Pulled the bullets and powder was the old stick cordite.
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    Combat Diver, I'd love one of those sterile cases for my collection, any chance we could organise something?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    Combat Diver, I'd love one of those sterile cases for my collection, any chance we could organise something?.
    Only way I can legally send it out is to demill it ie punch primer, drill out and drill a hole in the side of the case with lots of paperwork. Assinine for a piece of brass.

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    I have never seen stick cordite before... very cool. Is it always brown like that? Or is it the age? Stiff like a uncooked spaghetti noodle??? When you place a single stick down and add flame, does it burn poof, the same as normal powder? It must be fast I am sure in order to fire..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markopolo View Post
    I have never seen stick cordite before... very cool. Is it always brown like that? Or is it the age? Stiff like a uncooked spaghetti noodle??? When you place a single stick down and add flame, does it burn poof, the same as normal powder? It must be fast I am sure in order to fire..
    @Markopolo

    Sorry for the late reply. Here is a strand of cordite burning.




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    wow... no where near as fast as I would have expected..
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    I've been told that if you put about 3-4 cordite loads in a tight pile on the ground and light it that is burns slow at first then whoosh! Hot and fast! Supposed to burn faster then most modern granular powders... At least that's what I've been told...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbx-4 View Post
    I've been told that if you put about 3-4 cordite loads in a tight pile on the ground and light it that is burns slow at first then whoosh! Hot and fast! Supposed to burn faster then most modern granular powders... At least that's what I've been told...
    Here's 4 strands of that same cordite stacked.



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    Just had an ammo can of S/A 1944 Pretoria come into the shop today. All kapok and cordite and all so far clean and 100% shooters.

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    wow... that really is slow.. my first batch of homade Black Powder looked like flash powder compared to that. does it burn differently inside a case???? it must, as it would take forever to aquite enough pressure to launch... is it just old?? or is this somebodys home made version?? i am just having a time understanding how this stuff could launch anything... other then a marshmellow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markopolo View Post
    wow... that really is slow.. my first batch of homade Black Powder looked like flash powder compared to that. does it burn differently inside a case???? it must, as it would take forever to aquite enough pressure to launch... is it just old?? or is this somebodys home made version?? i am just having a time understanding how this stuff could launch anything... other then a marshmellow.
    Cordite came out of a dud case/bad primer. Rest of the rounds fired without issue.


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    That is why the case was formed around the powder to compress it enough to get a good burn and to get enough in the case.

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    Most smokeless powders burn relatively slow when out in the open compared to Black powder. I always burn my mistake powder, more fun than dumping it in the garden like some suggest.

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