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Thread: honestly useful electric scales

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    You are mistaken because you are using a junk scale.
    I inherited 2 Lee balance beam scales and they both had poor dampening characteristics because Lee used cheap weak magnets.

    If you buy the equivalent junky electronic scale you will be even worse off. For the most part a used RCBS 502, 505, 5-10 and 10-10 scales are all much better than the Lee and are more reliable than any digital scale under $500. Many long range accuracy shooters use digital scales but they run in the range of $800 to $1000.
    You are right the Lee scale is not so hot but cheap digitals can be worse.
    BTW I was given a new Dillon Dterminator digital scale about 15 years ago and it was worthless. After 8 years passed it was still new sitting in my closet. Dillion brought out a next generation scale and I sent mine back. The replacement works fine but I had to wait 8 years for the state of the art to be useful.
    I also have the RCBS 750 made by Pact. It works ok but I do not trust either for one pass weighing. You need to pick up and reweigh many times to verify the scale did not stick. So my digitals are confined to weighing brass and bullets. Powder is weighed with 6 or 7 scales that I have that were made by Ohaus for Lyman and RCBS. I broke one Lee scale experimenting on it. The other is stored because it is not worth the postage to give it away.

    Quote Originally Posted by crankycalico View Post
    Im abandoning my lee beam scale. It is GREAT for checking to see if a charge is "on" but not for getting to that charge weight.. to much movement.

    As I cant seem to find small beam scales under 100 dollars, id like to look at a decent electric scale that actually CAN work.
    Last edited by EDG; 12-22-2018 at 12:19 PM.
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    There are recommendation herein for using "check weights" to verify your scale is reading "true". We're lead casters here. Making check weights from lead is simple. Use YOUR OWN scale to make the check weights. CONSISTENCY is the KEY. If your scale is consistently zeroed and checked against the same set of "check weights" that you made and found to be reading true, then you have met the consistency requirement. Should you desire to weigh your check weights on another scale and the check weights do not "measure up" WHO CARES? Another scale MAY be off. Using the same check weights over and over will give you the consistency you are looking for.
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    I still occasionally use a Lee scale and it's just a matter of learning how or modifying your methods to make it a reliable scale (nothing wrong with a Lee scale just some can't/won't learn how to use a vernier scale or need to hurry through powder weighing). I saw a video of "improvements" for the Lee SS and I can put a strong magnet under the aluminum pan and this slows the "swing" appreciably. When adjusting my powder measure I set the vernier poise on my scale to the target weight, lock the poise in place and adjust to that, not the other way around. I set my powder measure to my beam scale (RCBS 5-10, Lyman D5 or Lee) and check that weight on my Frankfort Arsenal (Gem Pro?) digital. Then I'll use the digital for faster weighing (using the beam scale's weight. If my beam scale says 8.5 g. and my digital scale says 8.3, I'll continue to use the 8.3 readout on my digital, knowing in fact the beam is more accurate for me.). I also "tare" my digital often, I once charged 11 cases .4 gr over target weight because the "tare" jumped .4 grains...
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    I've got an amazon jewellery scale ,saves time when weighing boolits but rely on my Lyman 500 for powder charges .use it to cross check now and then but my lee and Lyman measures seem to throw pretty constant weights of powder .

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    I used an OHAUS balance beam scale since the '6os...same as the RCBS 505, only a different color, till it didn't work accurately any more, then, about 25 (iirc) years ago, I bought a Dillon beam scale. I use the same set of Lyman check weights, which only go to 21.5 gr., to zero and confirm charge weights. That's for pistol rounds. I also have a verified 52 gr. varmint boolit that I use to zero for rifle charges. I figure if it is accurately zeroed at "perzakly" 52gr, it will weigh plenty accurately for loads of ~ +-10% if I'm not hot-rodding to max and beyond.

    The other day, I noticed the beam was very gently sticking at the bottom end of its travel. That was strange, because it is kept in a tupperware box. I cleaned the bearings and knife points with alcohol, and noticed the magnetic dampening paddle was contacting the scale body. I gently torqued it away from the offending piece, and it works with no problems. I think electronic scales are nice, but personally, don't see a need.

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    Im weighing each charge because of my latest hand injury makes it hard to get a consistent throw using my lee dippers.

    Im finding that the set I have is not exactly "on par" with the lee measure chart of Red Dot. And right now im trying to find the sweet spot for red dot.

    Is there at least a useful way to make sure the stupid magnets don't stick?

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