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Thread: Old Keith 44 New Crimp

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    Old Keith 44 New Crimp

    What did I do wrong with this crimp???

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    Quote Originally Posted by 44MAG#1 View Post
    What did I do wrong with this crimp???
    Nothing!

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    It looks like a "profile crimp" (intended for a square cannelure on a jacketed bullet) instead of a roll type crimp.....??
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    Looks like a Lee FCD did that. I use a roll crimp on revolver loads.

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    FCD...looks good to me
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    If it chambers nothings wrong.

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    Looks like a good crimp to me. I like that type of crimp.

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    I say go with it I have some that done that use of the FCD and it is no problem and chamber with any problems.I say go with it .That looks like the LEE 310gr boolit.
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    Ok, I give up. What DID you do wrong with that crimp?

    Dang nice picture.

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    Were you going for a std roll crimp ?
    If your round drops in & out of the chamber, there is no problem. If you want a roll crimp, then you have some careful die adjustment to work on.
    The only way to get a good roll crimp is to start with cases of equal length. That means case trimming, really only necessary for HOT LOADS in cartridges like the 3 original Mags. And the later .454, .475, .480's.
    The S&W .500 & .460.

    If you don't care about a proper roll crimp then use a taper crimp or the Lee FCD.

    Usually that first trimming is enough for non-magnum loadings. It does help when using match .38spl brass for top notch target loads.

    And trimming did matter to my accuracy when I shot .44Mag in Production Revolver in Handgun Metallic Silhouette 40yrs ago.

    But the only thing you need from a revolver crimp is to hold the bullet in the case 1st round to last round.
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    Looks to me like a heavy attempt at a roll crimp. The "crimp" diameter is rounded off and the smaller diameter of the die's ID, beyond the crimp is apparent in the smaller diameter.. I would back off until the "straight" part is gone and the roll is complete in the groove. Look at the inside of a crimp die. The sides are straight up to the rounded "shelf" and then a smaller ID. It looks like you are pushing the case up beyond the rounded "shelf". Probably won't hurt anything as is, just looks funny.

    I use a standard roll crimp, a Profile crimp and a Lee collet crimp on my 44 Magnums. I use mostly lead bullets and if I'm using a heavy charge slow powder (WS820) I'll often use a heavy Profile crimp. Most other loads I'll use the Lee collet crimp.
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    A roll crimp like in this thread:
    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...71#post4504971

    Again I mean no hurt, harm, anguish or turmoil by my post I have posted on this posted subject. I am not baiting, trolling or calling out anyone. I am making a post based on my experience, knowledge and/or belief or opinion. That is all.

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    I got an unfired box of 150 grain lrn from Winchester in 38special where the "good crimps" are like that photo of yours. Personally I don't think its good or bad until you fire it, and see what the gun tells you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robg View Post
    If it chambers nothings wrong.
    EXCACTLY what I was thinking, also.

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