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Thread: 44 Magnum lever guns: 1:38 Twist - WHY?

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    Boolit Buddy
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    A 1-20 twist would be more useful in everything .44 using heavier bullets including the .444 I have a 1-28 in my 44-40 /1892 Win[barrel replaced] and it shoots a lot better than a plate at 100 yards pistol cartridge or not.Shoots 220gr GC just fine.The Browning 92 has shallow rifling and the wrong twist as well compounded by poor sights.

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    I'm with the diameter believers. My Browning 92 and Marlin 1894 are both miserable with .430" bullets. But load them with .433" ones, especially if they are paper patched, at full pressure and they are incredibly accurate. Palm sized groups at 200m are no problem, and likely could be better if they had better sights. It's not the twist rate, it is the same as every other gun shooting cast bullets. The ammo has to fit the barrel or it won't work.
    "Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est."

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    A 1-20 will shoot all bullet weights up to 300gr so is more versatile and yes proper dia is a must.

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    My 1894S with ballard rifling has a 1 in 20 twist.
    Likes the lyman 429421 at .431.
    2 to 3 inch groups at 100 meters, I am happy with that.
    Actually this is the second rifle I've owned where the first load that I put together worked right from the start. I like it when that happens.


    I have this same debate with the newer 44wcf rifles only regarding bore diameters, .430-.431 bores, why?

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    My shorty does just fine with micro groove. Size at .431 then powdercoat.

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    Older thread I started about this. http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...mag-1-38-twist
    Endeavor to persevere

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    I’ve always sized 44’s at .432 in pistol, old Rossi puma lever and 444 marlin.
    Never had leading problems lubed with caranuba red
    They’re not precision rifles but sure are a lot of fun

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    Fix the headspace between the ears and tighten the nut behind the buttplate.

    This is too funny Ed. I might have to use this!
    The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
    Proverbs 1:7

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    Quote Originally Posted by waco View Post
    Fix the headspace between the ears and tighten the nut behind the buttplate.

    This is too funny Ed. I might have to use this!
    I stole it from Frank Marshall, but he's buried at Arlington and won't mind if you use it.
    The ENEMY is listening.
    HE wants to know what YOU know.
    Keep it to yourself.

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