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Thread: My Ruger Auto Pistol conversion Project

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    Well.....the Olympic guys have weighed in heavily with Euro pistols in 32 Long that, despite their expense, are probably cheaper than a modded Ruger. It is not what can be done, but rather what is reasonable to do...and what the winners are doing.

    I suspect the guys who are making the Walthers and Hammerlis and similar dedicated target pistols used by such shooters are having the last laugh. Factory support and spare parts are helpful.
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    California Department of Justice Bureau of Firearms has a listing (currently four pages long) Titled "Roster of Exempted Olympic Competition Pistols" that lists them by Maker, Model, and Caliber. The Listing contains pistols in .22Short, .22LR, .32 S&W Long, and .38 Special. I note that the .22LR is the most prevalent caliber listing. The last revision was in 2013!
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    Thanks for the pics. That's a sweet looking pistol.
    I have a Ruger mkII SS Target model and really enjoy how it fits my hand. It's very easy to hold and shoot accurately. I've often thought that Ruger should make a tip up single shot pistol based around the MKII grip frame. I'd bet they'd sell a gazillion of them.

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    Planning a "Range Day" Tomorrow, December 27th, with my Special Effects Friend.
    Taking a .32 S&W 5 shot top break, a .32 Single Six Revolver, a Colt D.A. 38 revolver,
    My Ruger Target .22 Auto, my Ruger .25ACP auto Eject Pistol, a Stevens .22LR Marksman, and a Stevens .22LR !894 Favorite.
    Ammunition ranges from .22LR through .25ACP, .32ACP, .32 S& W, .32 S&W Long, .32 H&R MAG., to .38 Long for my firearms.
    My friend is considering what he will bring along.

    I think we will have an interesting time at the Angeles Ranges (commercial operation).
    I will not be taking the Chronograph this trip as we are going for 'Fun And Relaxation', not technical work.

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    Today, December 27th of 2018, My special effects Coordinator Friend and I took several firearms to the Commercial Angeles Ranges to have some "fun And Relaxation" testing function and general shooting at targets.

    It seems A Whole Lot of Others also had that Idea!

    Most Positions on the 100 yard and shorter Line were Occupied but we found spots near the Right end of the Pistol Benches next to the first Rifle Bench for the 100 yard range area.

    Results?
    1. My I.J. 32S&W Top Break five shot works 'fair' if i remember to rotate the Cylinder clockwise a couple of turns before closing the action, to bring the Cylinder to the Forward most position it can hold.
    It accepted .32 S&W cartridges and fired them with reasonable accuracy to 50 yards.
    2. My Ruger .32 H&R Mag Single Six fires .32 Auto, .32 S&W, .32 S&W Long, and .32 H&R well at 50 yards. I did notice that the shorter cartridges seem to 'spread further' than the longest one.
    3. My Colt D.,A. 38 works fair at 50 yards and good at 7 yards.
    4. My Ruger ~6" bull Barrel Standard Auto pistol works well at 50 yards shooting 'Western 'Super X' standard velocity .22LR"; my wrist needs to be stronger.
    5. My New .25ACP Ruger Standard Auto Conversion worked well as a Single Shot today. At 7 yards it started out High and left of Center of aim; three Clicks on windage brought into horizontal POA but I discovered it had a 'Allen" socket screw for the Elevation adjustment and I did not have a a suitable tool with me.
    at 50 yards it was still high but 'patterned' well.
    6. A Stevens Marksman .22LR shot nice tight group at 50 yards but took two strikes of the Hammer to fire each cartridge.
    7. A Stevens 1894 Favorite fired on the first hammer blow but the cases expanded in the Chamber to make extraction difficult.
    8. My friend fired his .380 auto Pistol and it put al shots into a 3" circle at 7 yards. He commented it was 'good enough for Self defense' in his opinion.

    After the range session we stopped for a Lunch; then I took my misbehaving firearms to my gunsmith for his suggestions.
    A. The "Allen "Socket head elevation screw was replaced with one that had a Slot in it.
    B. The Marksman will get further work on it later to correct the 'Light Strikes'.
    C. The Favorite has a worn and enlarged chamber. Unfired cartridge measures .226" diameter. Fired Case measured .230" diameter with some 'ripples' and one area that was .228" diameter. It looks like either Sleeve the Chamber or reline the Barrel.
    Something to consider later.
    D. I guess I will have to "Just Live with it" for the I.J. Top break .32S&W.

    2-1/2 hours at the range; a Good time was had; all in all a good day indeed.

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    It is Morning December 31st and I am contemplating the evening and then morning of January 1st when I will watch the Pasadena Rose Parade on TV, sort of a Family Tradition started when my family moved into our new house in 1955. The first Christmas, 1955 we had a 6 foot Live Christmas tree that we Planted in the Back Yard afterwards. It is still there and growing, and now has a 'volunteer" youngster on the opposite side of the Yard.
    The Southern California drought with accompanying Water Use Restrictions and penalty fees have made keeping my yards green nearly impossible but I still make sure the Trees get enough to live strong.

    May All viewers Have A Wonderful and Enjoyable New Year and a Happy New Year's Eve celebration. If you are of a mind to share watching TV like I will be in the Morning here; Enjoy it in a cozy and warm home with your family also.

    Best Regards for The New Year,
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    This last Weekend, December 5-6, 2019, I was able to use my Friends Special Effects shop machine tools for both afternoons/early evenings.
    The time was used to fough out a Form Tool to remake a Beretta "950" .25ACP magazine body into a top portion of a Magazine to fit my .25ACP Ruger Pistol conversion.
    Saturday was Spent reducing the Width and thickness fo the A2 Alloy Tool Steel blank so it would fit the interior of the Beretta Magazine closely, then trimming one end to the approzimate feed angle of the Ruger Pistol, marking the feed lip forming area needed, notching the tool and then employing a bench mounted narrow abrasive belt 'sander' to carve the feed lip inside radius onto the forming area.

    Sunday was spent trimming one Beretta magazine body to the same 'feed angle, marking and cutting the end for feed lips, and then after clamping the body onto the Form Tool, hammering the Lips onto the body.
    A rough cut was made to remove the flange at the bottom of the Magazine body, then it was 'dressed,' to remove burrs, and tried in my pistol grip frame/receiver for fit.
    It Did slide fully into the Grip frame and up near the point where The bolt would strip a cartridge eventually; but i still had to notch the back edge to clear the bolt bottom rib that strips off The cartridge to be chambered.

    The last operation of Sunday evening was to use a 'Dremel" fine abrasive cutoff wheel to cut the Notch.
    By this time I was Shivering in the Unheated and open Shop so I cleaned up, packed up , and left for home.

    This last weekend was Rainy wet and Shivering cold outside, with about half an inch of Rainfall Saturday and more Sunday. Enough to trigger some Flash Flood watches and mud slides in burned off Areas nearby.

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    It is Friday and I have a VA Appointment today, plus there is more Rain forecast for this weekend and next week. so Far this January I have received about an Acre-Inch of rain here which is keeping my Yards Green for a time.

    Have done some "Armchair puttering" during cold evenings this week and, if Weekend Availability allows, will try to do some more work on my Magazine Form Tool to improve its functional capability.

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    Wetter Weekend, No work done on my Projects.

    Did get my Kitchen Sink unclogged and draining properly againC though.

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    My Computer and Internet Connection was 'down' for the last Three days. It is finally back in useful operation today.

    Now I need to 'scrub' the Last Three Days of Emails!

    Chev. William

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    Thursday here is dark. cold, wet with Lightning, Rolling Thunder, and Rain.
    Ruins my chance this week to go to the outdoor Commercial Range and do further Testing on my Ruger .25ACP Custom Standard Auto Pistol for Senior 'reduced fee' time.

    At Least GOD chose to bless me by Watering my Yards, Shrubs, and Trees for me today, saving me the "Drought Penalty Fees" for keeping my Trees and Shrubs alive.

    Best regards,
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    Your venue sounds a bit like Angeles Shooting Ranges. I drive out that way 2-3 times a year to shoot with a guy that lives in Simi Valley--he and I went through school together, from 7th grade forward. Nice range site, they keep it up very well. And all of those iron targets on the pistol side--too much fun.

    We have the hatches all battened down out here in Redlands as well. The forecast says 1/2" today, 1-1/2" on Saturday, almost 3" total through Monday. Stay dry, sir!
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9.3X62AL View Post
    Your venue sounds a bit like Angeles Shooting Ranges. I drive out that way 2-3 times a year to shoot with a guy that lives in Simi Valley--he and I went through school together, from 7th grade forward. Nice range site, they keep it up very well. And all of those iron targets on the pistol side--too much fun.

    We have the hatches all battened down out here in Redlands as well. The forecast says 1/2" today, 1-1/2" on Saturday, almost 3" total through Monday. Stay dry, sir!
    You are correct, My Local Commercial Outdoor shooting range is at "Angeles Shooting Ranges" near the Southern border of Angeles National Forest in Little Tungah (sp?) Canyon.

    They are mostly recovered from the devastating fires of Last year, working out of a temporary Office until they get the Range Office building rebuilt/constructed.

    There are a set of 'Portable Toilets' set up in the Interim for user 'convenience'.

    Luckily the majority of the CCC planted Eucalyptus grove survived and is still thriving. A few trees were burned/scorched but now have been cut down, and into 'logs', for removal.

    The Oaks along the road still are there but one had its old growth, which had rotted from the inside, burned away, leaving the newer healthy growth in place.

    The shade shelter roofs over the main firing lines are back in place along with the wood benches for the .22, and pistol areas.

    Interesting that the Concrete Block Range office burned and had to be razed; but the Wood reloading store survived without even getting its paint scorched.

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    That Ruger MKI conversion to 32 S&W WC sited in an earlier post was built by Atkinson & Marquart, a gunsmithing partnership formerly in AZ.
    Their 32 conversions come up occasionally. Here's an old one:
    https://www.gunauction.com/buy/8064237

    They are very heavy and have a weird balance due to the heavy weight on the end of the bolt.

    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6string View Post
    That Ruger MKI conversion to 32 S&W WC sited in an earlier post was built by Atkinson & Marquart, a gunsmithing partnership formerly in AZ.
    Their 32 conversions come up occasionally. Here's an old one:
    https://www.gunauction.com/buy/8064237

    They are very heavy and have a weird balance due to the heavy weight on the end of the bolt.

    Jim
    I understand the Problem with the added Mass (weight) for the Bolt plus the Weight of the full Magazine and Barrel making the completed Conversion less comfortable to hold/point.

    Chev. William

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    I must say, this has been a fascinating thread to follow. I love projects like this.

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    It is interesting. How's the magazine work progressing ?

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    Currently it is not. I must pay bills and taxes BEFORE food and Discretionary projects. The State of California has raised Fuel taxes and Vehicle registration fees to cover General Fund 'shortfalls' caused by the "Sanctuary State Influx".
    My retirement payments do NOT increase to keep even.

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    I can highly recommend leaving California

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    For those with sufficient Funding and life energy it is a plan.
    As a retired Disabled Veteran of 76 years age, and part owner of the home I live in, it is not a workable option.

    It seems to me many of the "Progressives" who voted in the current State, County, and City Politicians are the ones moving to other states to spread their 'misguided' Socialist Ideas.

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