Old keith 44 loaded

[44MAG#1]

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[Markopolo]

Pretty good crimp you got there..... what’s it loaded with?

[44MAG#1]

Pretty good crimp you got there..... what’s it loaded with?

A2400 and Federal 150's Remington cases.

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[LUCKYDAWG13]

What you going to shoot them in

[44MAG#1]

Smith M69 2.75 inch.

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[LUCKYDAWG13]

you just inspired me to go load up the 44 brass I primed up a few days ago

[Bookworm]

That is indeed a very substantial crimp.

Some 44 Mag eye-candy.

[megasupermagnum]

So looking at your other thread, are you crimping below the front driving band and leaving an air space to the middle band? Or are you crimping heavy enough that the brass is filling that huge crimp groove entirely?

[44MAG#1]

I crimp just over the bevel. Leave the space empty.

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[megasupermagnum]

Do you have any ideas why Elmer would have designed a bullet that way? Does it crimp easier this way?

[44MAG#1]

Really have no Idea.

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[osteodoc08]

Do you have any ideas why Elmer would have designed a bullet that way? Does it crimp easier this way?

It looks like our brother is using the time tested 429421 and is crimping heavily on the crimp bevel/groove, which will be needed to keep the boolit from walking and tying up the revolver. The crimp is a nice firm crimp and the loads are beautiful. I personally like to crimp to where it rolls under just behind the front driving band, but that’s personal preference.

As far as the Keith design, they all follow a basic formula of 3 equal drive bands and a square grease groove and a meplat of 65%. Design changed a bit here and there for reasons you can look up and read about but that’s the basic Keith design. The front drive band was important in holding the bullet concentric especially when engaging the forcing cone.

Let us known how they shoot in the 69.

[megasupermagnum]

It looks like our brother is using the time tested 429421 and is crimping heavily on the crimp bevel/groove, which will be needed to keep the boolit from walking and tying up the revolver. The crimp is a nice firm crimp and the loads are beautiful. I personally like to crimp to where it rolls under just behind the front driving band, but that’s personal preference.

Let us known how they shoot in the 69.

Take a look at the picture in his other post. This is supposedly an old version of Keith's bullet. It has a bevel for the crimp, but the bottom of that groove is quite wide, not seen on any other 429421 I've seen. It's almost more like the Heath bullet, but with steeper angles in the top lube groove to makeshift a crimp groove. It would make sense, as Keith says he based his design off a number of other bullets, naming the Heath bullet in Sixguns.

[sw282]

They look EXACTLY like Hensley&Gibbs #503 Keith mold. Cast some today with mine.

44MAG...What mold did you use??

thanks
282

[44MAG#1]

They look EXACTLY like Hensley&Gibbs #503 Keith mold. Cast some today with mine.

44MAG...What mold did you use??

thanks
282

I have two H&G 503 molds and although they are both are different slighty neither one looks anything remotely like this bullet.
H&G like others did their own experimenting with the Keith.

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[bob208]

as a impartial party. send me 1000 for testing and I will report back.

[slughammer]

What mold did you use?

[44MAG#1]

Ideal 429421.

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[mdi]

Seems like your apology is your signature line. If it were mine, I'd delete it...