Earlier this year I bought a Remington #4 that had a perfect bore and very tight. Been debating on how to make it shootable. Was at the gunshow this past weekend and found a guy that had a later box of Remington Cleanbore smokeless shells with 28 left. shot 4 into a tight group at 30 yards. Figure there is about 20 squirrels or rabbits better watch out. Dang I wish someone would make that round again