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    Had four FTF out of 120 in 45 colt. WLP lot FLL292G. If anyone had similar issues, please check the lot. Please post here as I am trying to figure it out. Primers or gun....

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    I had a bunch of FTFs when first trying to fire form 7mm TCU brass; Weak hammer spring, new stronger spring fixed that. (Was using small rifle CCI primers IIRC, they're a bit thicker primer cups than some.) Not remembering any other FTFs, primers are usually darn good!

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    W-W LP primers have been giving me fits too.

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    only bad primers I had was a case of wolf large pistol primers I bought once. Had a couple misfires and got to looking at the primers and found that a couple out of each pack didn't even have anvils.
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    I rec'd the Fed-EX "call tag", now all I gotta do is box 'em up and send them back. This could take awhile, but I will surely post the results once known.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuz View Post
    I rec'd the Fed-EX "call tag", now all I gotta do is box 'em up and send them back. This could take awhile, but I will surely post the results once known.
    I hesitated posting this question before...but since you posted again about shipping them...
    How does this work for Haz-Mat items ?
    Any special instructions or haz-Mat labeling?

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    I used a primer pocket uniformer once and made the primer pockets too deep. There are light primer strikes ftf on those pieces. Whoops.

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    The only FTFs I’ve had due to primers not igniting we’re in a Colt Trooper Mik III in which I had installed Bullseye springs. That’s in 40 years of reloading. The gun worked well with Federal primers but I had loaded some ammo with CCI primers which didn’t work with the light springs. I tried to shoot those rounds with another revolver but the dented primers wouldn’t fire. I don’t think that trying to fire ammo in a second gun is a definitive test once the primers are desensitized with a strike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuz View Post
    Yesterday I had 3 FTF and 10 hangfires in a .308 Winchester Howa rifle that was loaded with cast boolits and 17.5g of 2400. I put the 3 FTF rounds in another .308 Winchester, this time a Savage 11 and they did not fire either. In both cases the primers looked to be stricken hard enuf to ignite. Upon disassembly of the 3 FTF rounds, all 3 had powder, and when I examined the primers after punching them out carefully, 2/ea appeared to be slightly darker in the priming compound area under the anvil. The other, looked just like the remaining ones in the sleeve.
    At this point I don't want to reveal the brand, as I have nearly 5000 of the same lot that I would like to exchange. Let's just say they are of a well known brand that I have used successfully for over 50 years with nary a misfire.

    How do I go about getting them exchanged?

    Have any of you experienced bad primers to this extent?

    Thanks for any help--Shuz

    Do you wet tumble your brass? Is it possible you deprime after cleaning? Water can get trapped in there getting the new primers wet and causing failures. Additionally, could you have handled the primers with something on your hands and accidentally contaminating a few of them?

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    had a similar problem with my savage 116 308 stripped bolt <not spring off firing pin>cleaned the crud out of the bolt body .seems to have fixed it.

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    I have a batch of Small rifle primers I bought cheap.
    They were bought when there was a primer shortage.
    I thought I had loaded too hot somehow and the pockets were huge and the primers fell out.
    After a while I realised that some were physically smaller.

    I havenít found any more rejects after a few packets.

    They go bang and I have a couple of thousand left.
    I get the odd flyer...maybe itís the primers.(my excuse)

    I havenít bothered to do anything as I got them for a song after some-one got them cheap.

    I havenít any issues with anvils etc.

    I had a few big named primers with no anvils or anvils upside down or no compound but the part of the % would be very small overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonB_in_Glencoe View Post
    I hesitated posting this question before...but since you posted again about shipping them...
    How does this work for Haz-Mat items ?
    Any special instructions or haz-Mat labeling?
    When I contacted the mfr, they assigned an RMA number to my situation and then sent me an e-mail with a tracking number to give to FedEx and all the shipping labels and hazardous "diamonds" to put on the outside of the box. Fed Ex is supposed to pick this pkg up at my house sometime today between 8AM and 6 PM. Obviously due to the nature of the product, it is shipping FedEx Ground. I'll report later how the transaction went if and when the driver agrees to take the package. All costs associated with this shipment are being born by the mfr.
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    Well, the FedEx guy showed up and scanned the package and off he went. We shall wait and see what kind of reply I get. Stay tuned!
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    Shuz--- lt seems you did well. l bought a sleeve of Fed Match LP primers awhile back. 0r so l thought... Box was labeled ''Large Pistol Match'', but the product number was ''GM210M''. So looked at another box of ''Large Pistol Match''. lts number was correct with GM150M. Called Federal 3 times a week for THREE weeks.. Always got the runaround or put on hold.. Did the best thing for ME... l gave those mislabeled primers away... All 5000 of them... Along with a few more thousand Federals l had laying around... Done with Federals

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