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Thread: What cast boolit for an early XD45acp?

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    What cast boolit for an early XD45acp?

    I never thought I would like a plastic gun.
    Recently, I have been shooting and falling in love with a Springfield XDM 45acp 5 inch service pistol. Very reliable so far and will feed anything I can load in it.
    I picked up an early Springfield XD 45acp for cheap as a backup to my XDM 45acp service 5 inch since it uses the same magazines.
    I hear and read about problems with some of the early XD pistols not wanting to feed SWC ammunition. Basically anything that has a fairly sharp shoulder just in front of the case.
    I looked at the bottom of the slide and there is NO hump below the breechface, so this one has not been updated.
    I have molds for 452374, 452460, H&G 68, and Lee 230 tc.
    Which ones would have the best chance of working properly with this pistol?
    I pick it up in a few days and need to get some ammo ready for a trial run.
    Even if I can't get it to work with cast, I got it cheap enough I could afford to just run new ammo in it if I absolutely needed to but would very much prefer to use my cast loads in it.

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    Anything with a rounded profile should run. In my S&W M&P 45, it’ll plug and chug anything I feed it.

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    I had an early XD with the narrow feed ramp and one bullet it wouldnt feed worth a plugged nickle was the Saeco 058 which i really love because of its wide meplat.
    Springfield wised up and now has a nice feed ramp.

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    Well not a XD but this boolit works good in my XDs https://www.opticsplanet.com/lyman-p...ECDBEA-2660374
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    My brother had an early XD and it did not feed SWCs AT ALL. It was a pump action pistol. It fed fine with the Lee TC 230gr. however.
    You can miss fast & you can miss a lot, but only hits count.

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    Is the XD you are having problems a short stroke gun like the Kahr PM45 & P45 that the breach face in the slide only goes to the back of the mag box ? if so ammo has to be around 1.210 col or shorter. none of my 4 45 acp moulds would work that have a col of around 1.250 so I tried some borrowed HG-130 and they worked fine so I bought a Lee 6 cavity 230 gr tc and load with a col of 1.210 .

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    Lee 230 TC runs in my 10 year old (pre XDM) 45XD 4”.
    Never heard of a feeding ramp change with the XD series.
    Was familiar with the ‘hump’ for feeding swc.
    There was a thread on xdtalk about someone figuring out the issue and thinking of modifying the slide, but then the XDM came out so he just bought that. Maybe he did modify his first, cannot remember.

    Watch out for seating of the guide rod, it is round, the seat is flat.
    Was not uncommon to have it get a little off center when reassembling, locking the gun up.
    The official fix requires a box end wrench and a hammer. Hook onto the exposed guide rod with the box end wrench and whack the wrench with the hammer, pulling the guide rod out, allowing it to snap into the correct position.
    This was fixed in later guns.

    Also if yours is a 4” the only guide rod/springs seem to be the factory ones.

    And the striker retaining roll pin breaks/falls out on some of these guns, seen it happen on a brand new one years ago.
    Mine has been fine, even removed/replaced a few times.
    Gun functions fine without it, it just retains the striker during detail stripping.

    Other than that it is a nice fun, mine has 10-20k through it, just need to order a new guide rod for it, noticed a crack starting last cleaning.

    Have fun with the new old gun.



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    The best I used was the Lyman 452374HP that Mihec made or I later designed one similar over at Accurate Molds I believe it's the 45-230V. The thing is you do not want a nose profile that will have any full diameter front drive band sticking out side of the case mouth (no barrel throat) and one does not want a shouldered bullet such as a SWC for those original XD's since they will not cycle worth a hoot.

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    I am going to pick the gun up on Monday. I will run it through it's paces at the range and see what it will do. I have several different boolit profiles and a couple of different jacketed profiles I can test in it and see what it likes.
    Thanks to all for the input.

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    The 452374 should feed ok, it has the same nose shape as G I ball. Woks in my 1911's seated at 1,265"OAL.
    If you want a SWC bullet the lee 200gr. TL or RCBS 200 gr. were very accurate for me, but would not feed 100% in my Colts. They are too short when loaded to pass the plunk test.






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    Picked up the early XD 45acp today and made it to the range before I went home.
    As some of you said, it won't feed semi wadcutters. Actually, it will feed the first one every time but never the second one. The case leaving the barrel hits the step on the boolit drive band on the top cartridge in the mag. Sometimes it will ding the case so badly that the case will not fit in the chamber afterwards. Usually just stovepipes or tries to pick up the case from the mag in front of the rim.
    Anything that looked remotely like a round nose or TC fed flawlessly and shot well. I put quite a few Lyman 452374 boolits through it without issue. Hardball worked perfectly of course. I ran some Nosler 185 grain hollow points through it and these worked perfectly as well although for some reason, they didn't group as well as the cast RN or hardball.
    All in all a very serviceable pistol.
    I think I may pick up a Lee 452-200-RF and see how those shoot.
    Anybody have a few of those I can buy or trade to try out?

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