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Thread: Is my alloy to hard for whitetail?

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    A wide flat nose or swc will slap 'em flat.
    As stated above, with porpoer placement, harness doesn't matter much with bullets that big...
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    a 44 caliber projectile is larger in diameter than any 7mm can ever hope to expand to. so for deer it don't matter about lead hardness. it is all about location, location, location, of the boolit,,,,,,,,,,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowhunter View Post
    a 44 caliber projectile is larger in diameter than any 7mm can ever hope to expand to. so for deer it don't matter about lead hardness. it is all about location, location, location, of the boolit,,,,,,,,,,,,
    A large meplat on a 44 bullet is what, .320"? You don't think a 7mm bullet can expand wider than that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by megasupermagnum View Post
    A large meplat on a 44 bullet is what, .320"? You don't think a 7mm bullet can expand wider than that?
    I am also wondering at this comment. Was it in reference to a cast boolit only?
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    if it dose expand much more than that it ain't enough to matter. my point is a 44 hole through a deer in the right place is all that will be needed, no expansion is necessary,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowhunter View Post
    if it dose expand much more than that it ain't enough to matter. my point is a 44 hole through a deer in the right place is all that will be needed, no expansion is necessary,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    Sure, the bullet the OP is talking about is just fine cast hard. A 7mm rifle bullet often expands to 1/2", sometimes larger. That is significantly more than a 44 caliber hard cast.

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    well I guess if you want to be precise and measure from peddle to peddle of the jacket of an expanded 7mm of some brands of projectiles they will be larger than .430 with that said,,,,it is still boolit placement no matter what,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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    My deer pistol of choice is my old 657 (41 Mag) with a 235 Keith or 275 WFN. Both have been responsible for deer and I would not worry about either. I do like the trajectory of the 235, in case I have to take a 90 to 100 yard shot.

    But, the question at hand is are bullets to hard. Years ago, right or wrong, I settled upon 94/3/3 for my alloy of choice. It fills out moulds very well, it is hard enough not to deform the nose in rifles and questionable semi-auto pistols and the bullet flattens but does not come apart. I do not have a hardness tester, but... they are hard. If I want harder they get water dropped and sized soon after. I do make softer bullets for self defense and true low velocity target shooting.

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    it is still boolit placement no matter what

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