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    Swag-o-matic

    A number of years ago I acquired a box of random stuff, which included a CH Swag-o-matic press and a few odds and ends, much of which I still haven't identified. It appeared that the previous owner (or the one before that) was casting as well as swaging jacketed 38spl bullets, and perhaps making gas checks, there was an old cloth bag labeled "bullet cores" and other **** like that.
    Does anyone here use or has used a swag-o-matic? I am trying to identify exactly what and how it does what it does and what I can do with it and what additional things I would need to do it. I haven't anything sufficiently worthwhile online yet.

    I have found a couple ebay items that appear to be the same as what I have, neither are mine, I am using them for example.
    This one has the same press and the top die (not sure what I would call it) as mine.


    This is the die and the little punch box which I also have.

    [edit:I am just now noticing links are not allowed, and that I should have posted this in the swaging forum. I will clean it up and try to get pics in later.]
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    NathanHoln, first I had to remove the eBay links, they are forbidden on the board. I know you were using them for illustration purposes but they are a no-no.

    Now. down to business, from your description you have a Swage-O-Matic with the base forming die installed and some nose punches. Sounds like a complete set for one caliber. The Swage-O-Matic is designed to swage half jacket boolits that were popular in the late 1950's early 60's. Finding the half cups today can be challenging.
    I have instructions for the tool. If you will PM me your email I will send them to you. Then, after reading through them post more questions and pictures if you can so we can help.
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    Pressman, my email is redacted I would appreciate that.

    Are these the same cups? (I tried to find where on the site the rules about links to refresh...no luck. This one is a link to an image, not a page.)
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    Yes, that is the cups. I'll get the instructions going to you shortly
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    Thanks for the instructions, Pressman.
    It appears that I have all of the parts, and also a few dozen half jackets and perhaps a hundred of the half jacketed bullets swaged in the thingy. I had thought they were store bought, but I now realize the image of the bullets on the box is not what they are.

    I think all I need is the lead wire and I can get this thing operational. If it goes as planned and I get familiar with it to the point that I know what I am talking about I'll do a video of it.
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    NH..I may have a core mold in that size, 44 pistol, yes? Those dies set float by on the auction sites every few months, but most folk don't know them for what they are. I think C&H still offers cups as does 1 or 2 others outfits, like a Corbin affiliate. I have a buch of v30 stuff if you get into it heavy lol good luck

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    Negative Ascast, .358.
    I will look into finding those. I don't shoot 38/357 anymore for the time being (long story involving loaning my exwife my 357 because of attempted break-ins and then she sold it...) but I load up my old brass and what I find because I am going to get one again someday, but if they are available I wouldn't mind dies for do some 30cal or 22.
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    You can use any size smaller cast bullet to make cores. Just be sure the lead is soft. Busted a Swage-O-Matic like that once. The excess lead will be bled off in thin wires. Save these for fishing sinkers. We were using a Lyman 311291 with the nose cut off to make 158 grain SWC HPs./beagle
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
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