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    9mm +P+, what pistol can shoot it?

    I was digging through an old stash of stuff and came across 2 boxes of 9mm 115 grain JHP factory +P+, one Federal, one from an LEA Winchester restricted issue. I had been doing some LEA-related instructing over 10 years ago and was often told to take any left over ammo with me because the agencies hated to do the paperwork to put stuff back into inventory. My question is, what pistol can this stuff be fired in safely? If I recall there was/is no real standard definition of what +P+ pressure actually is. I was thinking perhaps the 9mm cylinder in a Ruger .357/9mm convertible might be safe. What say you folks? GF

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    What guns were the officers using to shoot the stuff?
    I recently called Springfield armory and asked them about +P 9mm(not +P+). their response was to shoot a few now and then but not to make a steady diet of it. That technically, all their 9mm pistols are rated for +P. They would prefer you didn't do it all the time.

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    Ruger Blackhawk Convertible will eat that stuff three meals a day and midnight snack with no issues.
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    I remember my FAMILY loading very hot 9mm Handloads for the surplus P-38 & P-08 pistols in the 1950's-'60's. American made 9mm Luger didn't always function these guns. No problems with the Canadian made Hi-Powers.

    Of course you can shoot just about any 9mm Load in a RUGER BLACKHAWK .357 Convertible's 9mm cylinder.
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    I've shot the 115 gr. Winchester +P+ "law enforcement only" stuff in Beretta 92's with no ill effects. I've seen the same round damage an early model Kahr MK9 but only after several hundred rounds.

    I wouldn't make a habit of shooting that stuff in any pistol over a long term, I think it was meant to be used as carry ammo and not practice ammo. I don't believe two boxes would cause serious harm to a modern full size, 9mm pistol in good condition. I would refrain from shooting +P+ in something like an old aluminum framed Walther P-1, a 60 year old Star model B or some pocket pistol chambered in 9mm.

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    I think the blackhawk convertible would handle it, and you wouldn’t have to pick up the brass.
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    Under warranty for the record?

    Nothing I am aware of.

    Nearly all manufacturers I am aware of specifically disclaim coverage of +P+ ammo due to no SAAMI standard adherence. So they say “don’t shoot it in your gun.”

    That is the typical official response. No one on the gun manufacturing side of the equation sanctions it.

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    Maybe the Uzi?

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    If it came from the one shoot I recall I think it was a variation of the H&K USP. They also had some of the pre-issue .45 USPs with cans and about a pallet of ammo and let us try to burn up a bunch of it. There were also H&K MP5s with the integral suppressed barrel, but I doubt the +P+ stuff was fired in them, just the 147 grain subsonic loads. It was a fun day for us on the staff once the class was done. Lots of brass to pick up, though, and they let me haul it away, too! GF

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    i'd put them in the 9mm cylinder of my blackhawk without any concern.
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    When I carried a 9mm on duty in the late 80's I used a glock 19 and shot a a few boxes of the federal 115 +p+ in it with no ill effects also shot it in a Taurus 92 . Friend did the same in his ruger p85 . If it's just a box or two most quality full size pistols shouldn't have an issue with them .
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    Hipoint C9 is plus P rated.

    https://www.kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=54646

    Hi-Point C-9 special features:

    100% American parts and assembly
    On / off thumb safety
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    Last round lock open
    +P rated
    Hi-Point lifetime unconditional warranty
    Includes 8-round magazine, trigger lock and extra rear peep sight
    Made in the USA

    152$ at Kentucky Gun.

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    Not knocking hi point on their quality BUT and a big but it's just ugly as sin
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    its really not recommended in the browning hi power, as you only break the barrel lug that is swaged into the frame ONCE! a few isnt going to hurt one, but a steady diet is not so good.

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    Any modern 9mm service weapon will handle it the +p+ is not as hot as you think im sure your average reloader has made that class.

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    Any Glock or H&K will handle +P+ with ease.


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    I would not hesitate to shoot it in my Norinco 213.

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    Any firearm that's "nato" approved will eat a steady diet of them.

    Glock 17 & 19, sig 226 & 228, CZ- P01 & 75b, beretta m9 come to mind.

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