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    Boolit Buddy vrh's Avatar
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    How is this for an idea?

    It's raining here, so no mowing the grass today. So, I sat down at my reloading bench.
    I have an old CVA Frontier 50cal rifle. Believe it is pretty well shot out with some pitting.(Never threw it out)

    Have some MMP Sabots for a 50 cal. Have some #6 shot and some fiber wads.
    I weighed up the loaded MMP sabot with # 6 shot, along with a fiber wad. It weighed 150 grains total.
    Thinking about shooting this combo with 50 grains with 50 grains of 2F BP. Shooting at a distance of 25 yds and see how it does.
    What do you all think?
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    Da Okie/ Now known as Vearl

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    Think its lite on powder/shot ,try pattern @ 30 ft and work your way out .Might work with squirrel ,turkey not so much .Only pattern will tell but its a good way to spend the day trying /Ed

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    The twist will make donughts of your patterns really quick. Might work ok at 5 yds. A lighter charge might help a bit making it revolve slower.

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    50 grains is a pretty stout powder charge for this purpose.~~ I think?
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    I think that the 150 grain weight shot load is too small, smaller than a modern .410 caliber load of 13/16's of an ounce of shot = 3 inch shell.

    1 ounce of shot weighs 437.5 grains and 3/4's ounce weighs 328 grains.

    Generally people use equal volumes of powder and shot, with extra shot being added for better patterns.

    With a .410 load, you would be lucky to hit paper at 7-12 yards due to the rifling.

    For comparison, 28 gauge is .55 caliber and modern shells are loaded with 3/4's to 1 oz. of shot.

    POWDER MEASURE SETTINGS TO THROW OUNCES OF SHOT:

     50 grain setting = 3/4 ounce of shot
     60 grain setting = 7/8 ounce of shot
     70 grain setting = 1 ounce of shot
     80 grain setting = 1 1/8 ounce of shot
     90 grain setting = 1 1/4 ounce of shot
     100 grain setting = 1 3/8 ounce of shot
     110 grain setting = 1 1/2 ounce of shot
     120 grain setting = 1 5/8 ounce of shot

    Here are a few equal volume loads:
    oz. shot-----Dr. powder-------Grains
    3/4-------------2--------------55
    7/8-------------2 1/4----------62
    1---------------2 1/2----------68
    1 1/8-----------2 3/4----------75
    1 1/4-----------3--------------82
    1 3/8-----------3 1/4----------89
    1 1/2-----------3 1/2----------96
    1 5/8-----------3 3/4----------102
    1 3/4-----------4--------------109
    1 7/8-----------4 1/4----------116
    2---------------4 1/2----------123
    2 1/8-----------4 3/4----------130
    2 1/4-----------5--------------137
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    Quote Originally Posted by vrh View Post
    It's raining here, so no mowing the grass today. So, I sat down at my reloading bench.
    I have an old CVA Frontier 50cal rifle. Believe it is pretty well shot out with some pitting.(Never threw it out)

    Have some MMP Sabots for a 50 cal. Have some #6 shot and some fiber wads.
    I weighed up the loaded MMP sabot with # 6 shot, along with a fiber wad. It weighed 150 grains total.
    Thinking about shooting this combo with 50 grains with 50 grains of 2F BP. Shooting at a distance of 25 yds and see how it does.
    What do you all think?
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    Too much powder - not enough shot
    ditch the sabot
    25 grains of powder
    a decent heavy card wad
    a lubed felt wad
    3/4 ounce of shot
    overshot wad
    sneak up closer - 25 yards is too far for shot out of a rifled barrel
    Do you want a pest load for round the house ? or are you just bored and fillin in time while it rains?
    pest load you can do with 22 shot cartridges - snakes, rats, etc

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
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