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Thread: Mold ID help, two cherrie Modern Bond? Brass handles?

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    Mold ID help, two cherrie Modern Bond? Brass handles?

    I aquired this mold 95% sure it was manufactured by Modern bond. Problem is, there are a few differences from what i am used to seing in a MB made mold. 1)its unmarked, 2) its set screws are in the wrong place 3) its 2 different calibers in one block 8mm (160gr) and 6.5mm , as far as i can tell with calipers. They resemble a couple MB designs, except they lack crimp grooves
    4) handles are of cast brass, i have seen pics of modern bond handles that look like these, but i wasnt aware that any were made of brass.

    SO , Im looking for people with more knowledge than I , to help with identification
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    Blocks look more like a couple of Cramer molds I had.

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    Also, The 6.5mm cavity is a dead ringer for modern bond C-266-731 (i measured 0.730- 0.740 depth but the 8mm/32 is off a bit from the A-321-875 since it doesnt have A crimp groove (it measued 0.880-0.890 depth)

    I havent dealt with cramer molds much, i thought the sprue plate stop was part of the sprue plate always on his molds ? Or was there variations through the years?

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    Last edited by wjham77; 10-05-2018 at 08:40 PM.

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    Sprue plate is Modern Bond, handles are bronze and not common. The first M-B reloading tools were bronze only.
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    I wonder who made the handles, i need to take it apart to see how the screws were made, thread pattern etc. The mold is/was so well made, it had to be done by a experienced machinist.

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    The handles were made by Modern Bond. Do not take them apart, they are scarce in bronze. They were made about 1924.
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    So you think the whole piece is modern bond?

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    I was just talking about seperating the mold from the handles, to see how the mold screws were made, since the set screws are in a different place than the later modern bond molds i have, plus id like to see if they match up with later modern bond handles.

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    OK, you had my panicked there for a moment.

    Trying other moulds on the handles would be great, please post your findings.
    Ken

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