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Thread: Cast HP Worked

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    Cast HP Worked

    I have been practicing with a new 45 caliber HP in my OM shorty for the last week or so & yesterday I shot for a couple of hours at my Bill Fowler Steel target & thing were looking good. My load I settled on is 11 grs of Longshot with the 217 gr Maxine Mouth HP & it's running 965 fps out of my 4 5/8's 3 screw.
    For sure I can run this bullet faster but with this alloy I felt like I was in the right velocity range to make things work. On one forum a guy told me I shouldn't be using that bullet & that in his opinion a solid would work much better & then he finished by saying, trust me! When I quizzed him about his knowledge about six gun bullets, HP bullets, or hunting with six guns he told me he had never killed anything with a six gun but he a lot of knowledge shooting cast bullets..... in muzzle loaders, some bullets weighing 400+ grains & running maybe 1800 fps & again I was suppose to trust "his" knowledge.
    I arrived a little bit earlier than usual & started down a bumpy road on the 4 wheeler after watching another guy shoot a nice antelope with his rifle, it was a dandy although it had been fighting & it was well broomed.
    After a few minutes I spotted a doe running down hill towards a little spring so I stopped & then another deer popped up in the tall brush. I yanked out my OM shorty & took a breath as I broke the shot. I hit something because I saw something fly but I didn't hit the deer, it just turned from broadside to a sharp angle away from me. Thumbing the hammer back with my left thumb (right handed shooter) I held just behind the rib cage & sent another one down range. This one knocked her flat instantly. I looked for a couple of seconds & 2 more deer came running down the hill towards her then out of sight.
    I went up the rocky road & walked over & seen that I had actually hit a steel fence post with the first shot, I never even seen it because of the weeds & small sticks but I could clearly see where the bullet had hit it & that's what I saw blow up on the first shot. The bullet had entered just behind the last rib & angled up into the lungs, you can see all the damage it did to the lungs in photo 4. I drove my 4 wheeler down the old fence line & loaded her up & went back to the truck, shoved a bag of ice in the body cavity & took off to have some breakfast. Sorry, I guess I left out the distance, 61 yds.
    I think this bullet is going to be a dandy for deer size game in this velocity range....TRUST ME!







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    Very nice...meat for the freezer...thanx for sharing the story.

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    Nice,, did you find the bullet or exit wound?

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    Well done!
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    Good job. Did you find the boolit and if so how did it look?
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    The weirdest part about looking at pictures like this, I all of a sudden smell guts. It's a good and bad smell at the same time. Great job, I don't know how you could possibly ask any more from a bullet if it exited. If it didn't I'd still take that over a solid that will go through end to end.

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    Well done!

    TRUST ME!! That could be your sig line.
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    Dick, I think I understand why you added it at the end,
    but anyone who demands that you "Trust Me" ........ that's a rant for another thread.

    and nice work with the 3 screw shorty
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    Never a doubt in my mind, Dick. The Meat Hammer strikes again!

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    great write up and never a doubt on the HP right alloy for the speed works

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    Great write up and pictures, you really take us there.
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    How was the off shoulder and side regarding blood coagulating and splatter? Too many have doubts about the HP being overly destructive. The penetration looks to be great.
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    Haven't taken the hide off yet, I'll keep her iced down for another day or two that way I only have to skin her once. But I did look inside & I see why she dropped so fast, because of the angle the bullet clipped part of the spine, she really hit the ground hard, spine hits will do that.
    It will be interesting to see what else happened in there after I get the hide off. For sure the bullet worked fine, at least in my eyes after hitting her at that angle behind the last rib & making it to the lungs. I'll take that every time.

    Dick

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    Nice shooting! Great eating also! Would love to have a short barrel to go with my 7.5 in bisley.

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    Nice post! Nothing beats the evidence of cast Pb meeting flesh & bone.

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    What??? A hp cast boolit expanded and all its energy dumped into an animal for a "dead right there" instant death...what it can't be done unless it was a sold boolit. LOL!!!

    ...Take that HP haters

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    Well I think we get used to using something when we've had success with it & the guy speaking out against the HP seems to be a very experienced hunter/shooter, we just travel down different roads. I was talking handguns & he was talking muzzle loaders which is fine. The problem I had was when he made the comment "Trust Me" That got me riled up, as it would any one. Still, I don't know him but I'm guessing he's a very fine hunter with his equipment. That's all I'll say.

    Dick

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    It's hard to argue with success and it looks like your gun/load/and marksmanship did the job! Can't ask for more.

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    I am thinking that if you had used the solid it would have gone through the fence post and the deer also, saving you some ammo with only one shot needed. TIC (tongue in cheek).
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    Experience comes from poor judgment.

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    Fantastic ! Another corn cruncher off the roads and fulfilling it's destiny. Nice shot on a moving target.
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