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Thread: Encore Katahdin Carbine 45-70

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    A friend of mine working in a gun shop in Tucson AZ sold a 45/70 Derringer to a fellow in a wheel chair. He came back in the next week wanting to trade in the derringer on another gun. He said that the derringer had only had one round fired from it. Brodie

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    A bit of an update (Frid).

    Everything fell into place this week. My new mold from NOE arrived on Tuesday morning and my paperwork came later that day so i was able to pickup the rifle on Wednesday.
    I cast some boolits (NOE .460-315-RF), coated them with Hi-Tek, sized them to .458 and loaded some with 14gn of Trail Boss in new Starline brass.

    Then i discovered the NOE boolit won't chamber when seated to the crimp groove. They were jamming hard into the lands and i had to seat them .065 deeper to chamber freely.
    This makes me think that the mold might have been designed for use with the shorter Hornady FTX brass.

    It's not really an issue as the crimp groove is not necessary in a single shot. I used a Lee FCD to lightly remove the flare and called it good.

    I will look into other mould options after i have fired the rifle for the first time. Hopefully in the next few days.


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    Those are some good looking boolits!

    FWIW My Katahdin seems to have a short leade too. NOE’s 460-350 will barely chamber when crimped in the groove, they are fine in my Marlins. But they shoot so well I just keep using them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick R View Post
    Those are some good looking boolits!

    FWIW My Katahdin seems to have a short leade too. NOE’s 460-350 will barely chamber when crimped in the groove, they are fine in my Marlins. But they shoot so well I just keep using them.
    That's interesting. The 315gn that i'm using and the .460-350 you are using both have identical noses. I can chamber them when crimped in the groove but there are marks from being jammed into the rifling. I hope mine shoot as well.

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    Mine get marked too. My H&R Buffalo Classic was worse. I may get someone to lengthen the leade eventually but hate to “fix” a gun that shoots great groups.

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    I had the same experience as some on here. Fine with light loads but if you go anywhere past middle of the road the gun is just too light and will tear you up. Especially the overtravel screw in the back of the trigger guard. That will take a chunk out of you. I had a heck of a time keeping the scope from shifting in the rings also. Recoil is rough. Loaded light it's a fun gun to tote. Light and easy to put on target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Smith View Post
    Now I found those problems with the 500S&W the first time I shot it with the 720gr cast! 45-70 with the Gould or my 420 Lee group buy from years ago, at about 1200-1400 fps is a nice shooter. If you don't have one get the Lyman 457122 Gould and have fun.
    My wife has a love affair with Wayne's 45/70. She's a little thing at 5'2" and shoots full bore 45/70 loads better than myself at 6'5".

    Now I have to get her one of her own..
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    Quote Originally Posted by CamoWhamo View Post
    That's interesting. The 315gn that i'm using and the .460-350 you are using both have identical noses. I can chamber them when crimped in the groove but there are marks from being jammed into the rifling. I hope mine shoot as well.
    With the NOE 460-350 in my Marlin and Ruger in need to trim my cases to 2.070" to utilize the crimp groove. Ticked me off at first but, once I got a few hundred cases trimmed it really didn't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arisaka99 View Post
    My wife has a love affair with Wayne's 45/70. She's a little thing at 5'2" and shoots full bore 45/70 loads better than myself at 6'5".

    Now I have to get her one of her own..
    Yeah, you do, now especially that I have my 25 Krag AI barrel on it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrimReaper View Post
    Well, I got a Marlin 1895 and she wears a Nikon 2-7x33 and I really like the scope on her. No problems holding zero.
    my slb wears that scope to suits it well with the 75 yard parallax

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Coot View Post
    A friend of mine working in a gun shop in Tucson AZ sold a 45/70 Derringer to a fellow in a wheel chair. He came back in the next week wanting to trade in the derringer on another gun. He said that the derringer had only had one round fired from it. Brodie
    Should have told the guy he could load blanks in it and propel himself like a rocket!
    Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, .30 WCF, .45-70 Gov't.

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