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    Translucent copper next to SD Clear. No problem with the smash on hg#68.
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    Mine arrived all the way over here in Australia this morning, thanks Smoke.

    I did some .44 cal bullets tonight and they came out ok. The color is a bit splotchy in places but the overall coverage is as good as i get with the clear They do look slightly metallic from a distance so that's nice.

    I was using a new type of container that i have not used before so i can't be sure if that is the reason for the splotchy coverage. I'll have to eat a kilogram (2+ pounds) of yogurt to get the same container that has been working so well for me with the clear.

    What would happen if used the same container and BB's that i have been using with the clear? Are they compatible.

    I'll take some pics when i have better light tomorrow.

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    What would happen if used the same container and BB's that i have been using with the clear? Are they compatible.
    it would work .. Clear to another color would be fine .. going from another color to clear you would probably see a little of the first color in the clear finished bullets
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    I did some more with the Translucent Copper today.

    These are RCBS 340gn 45-70 Boolits.

    It's a hard color to photograph.

    The color is still a bit splotchy but it's better than my first try.

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    I got my translucent copper today and tried it out. After a few small test batches, I got some that are a more consistent color. It definitely covers differently than the blue I've been using. I completely changed my application method and the amount of powder I use. I'm going to try some more tomorrow but I'm fairly happy with the results I'm starting to get now.

    For some reason, this color is really hard to get a good picture of. This is with no flash under the florescent lights in the garage. It looks better in person though.

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    This color will not and is not intended to produce a solid opaque color. The beauty in this is the multi color hues it produces simulating the copper jacket multi hues.
    As long as you see shiny finish the clear base coat is there and bullet is protected
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    SharuLady sent me this .. she was having problems posting the pics and I offered to post for her

    Title : Testing 2 translucent copper colors

    Hi, Sorry for the pics, as I am not real good with pics. This is just a small sampling.
    While doing this I decided to do a little experimenting as well.
    I did some with 2 coats of Smoke's (These turned out great). Then some with 2 coats of Eastwood's Copper Penny (these turned out ok but not as nice as with Smoke's). Pic 1 P1010008_2 & Pic 2 P1010009_1

    Here a some pics I took with Smoke's Translucent & Eastwood's Copper Penny ( had only purchased 8 oz. of the copper Penny), then did a 2nd coat, first with Copper Penny the a 2nd coat of Smoke's Translucent (did pretty good). Pic 3 P1010010_1

    Then I reversed them with Smoke's 1st coat the 2nd coat of Copper Penny ( this did pretty good also). Pic 4 P1010011_2

    While I was at it I also did some with Eastwood's Extreme Chrome (really like this). Pic 5 P1010012_2

    I also tried some of Smoke's Harvest Gold pc. Was hoping for a more true gold color but it isn't.
    It covers ok (a little thin) but would look better with 2 coats. It turns out like a buff color.
    It's not even close to the Harvest Gold you used to see on stoves & refrigerators in the past.
    So my search will have to continue for a more True Gold color. Pic 6 P1010014_2

    Smoke's Translucent copper does good with 1 coat , but even better with 2 coats (darker copper look).

    Eastwood's Copper Penny is lighter than Smoke's & even with a 2nd coat of Copper Penny it still is light (slight improvement).

    It is my humble opinion that Smoke's is the best of the Two (2) types of Translucent Copper that I tried.

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    Hi,

    TYVM for your assistance on getting this uploaded to the forum Smoke4320!!!!
    It is much appreciated!

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    I'm still getting caught up after the storm, and still don't have solid internet, but I had coated these before we lost power, but hadn't had a chance to get a photo uploaded. On my monitor the color is accurately portrayed. They look to me like a copper wash more than plating or a jacket, but from a few feet away, they look more like copper than lead.



    These are essentially pure lead, and the copper powder applied a few hours after they were cool, before the lead could oxidize. This is a single coat of powder tumbled without BB's and dumped on a textured silicone baking mat. 400 degrees in a convection toaster oven for 20 minutes from cold (the color flows at between 5 and 6 minutes, so about 14-15 minutes cure time.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailormilan2 View Post
    Both bullets have two coats and have been sized. Flash glare makes the coating look thin

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    This was also my experience with the copper powder... No so great.

    Glad folks are having better luck than I am.

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    I got my powder in today and tried it on a small batch. In one picture, it has two bullets side by side. One was coated once. The other coated twice. The smash test was on a single coating. I tried single coats at 400degrees for 17 minutes and 300 degrees for 25 minutes. There were a few other trials. None produced any discernible difference.

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    Iron369. Something is wrong. No way should 1 coat look like your picture.
    Causes could be ..
    Not shaking hard enough or long enough
    Wrong plastic bowl. MUST be #5 in a triangle
    Wrong bbs
    Contaminated in some way
    If you still have issues call me and we can walk thru your process
    I carry a Nuke50 because cleaning up the mess is Silly !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke4320 View Post
    Iron369. Something is wrong. No way should 1 coat look like your picture.
    Causes could be ..
    Not shaking hard enough or long enough
    Wrong plastic bowl. MUST be #5 in a triangle
    Wrong bbs
    Contaminated in some way
    If you still have issues call me and we can walk thru your process
    I bought the bb’s from you. I may have not shaken long enough. it was definitely a #5 bowl. Even though the color is not as deep as the one with two coats, it is coated completely. I’m really new to powder coating bullets, but I did industry powder coating for several years. The coating looked pretty heavy as a dry powder.

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    Second batch. One coat. Picture shows coated and uncoated.

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