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    Quote Originally Posted by wgg View Post
    The first sentence in this thread, the op makes it clear for deer hunting. I don't understand why he would need to penetrate African game or a Grizzly bear. I believe that is something everyone could agree on.
    Please read and comprehend my posts. Did you miss this???

    " Deer, use a .22 LR or a .30-06. Use a hollow-point. "
    There was thread drift directly applicable to my posts. Take it in context.
    But more importantly, read what is posted.
    I woud use anything beginning wit a 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 and a large meplat.
    That is for me, Lead Bullets Technology.
    As stated above, use what you like, but keep it real.
    Last edited by jmort; 09-16-2018 at 01:11 PM.
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    Went2KcK, when you are breaking in a new mould it can take a few casting sessions sometimes to start making good bullets. What you need to proper alloy temp, proper mould temp & proper alloy "flow". Once you get all 3 you should be making good bullets. Preheat your mould by setting it on top of your furnace or you a hot plate with a piece of steel set on top so you don't warp your mould. I just set my mould on top & then usually dip a corner of the mould in the molten alloy for a few seconds to bring up the temp.
    Then you might start out by pressure casting, at least at first if you are using a bottom pour pot. That is, hold the mould right up against the nipple on the bottom of the furnace for a couple of seconds to get good fill out, then switch holes & repeat. This usually helps. Now cast pretty fast, watching your sprue cool on top, plus 2-3 seconds so you don't get smear under the sprue plate.
    Right away, maybe 5-6 casts, sometimes even the first cast you should be making good bullets. Don't take time to inspect them, keep a good rhythm going once you are making good bullets. I mostly use a 70/30 alloy of wheel weights & lead with a little linotype added to add some tin. My bullets are always powder coated but not water quenched. You don't want to water quench a HP bullet but you might if you're shooting solids.
    Inspect for good flat bases, if your bases are flat you are most likely making good bullets, & of course if making HP's check the nose. As mentioned above by others, I run my furnace a bit on the high side, you can always turn it down & I do after a while.
    I did run my 217 gr 45 HP's through the clock yesterday & they were running 965 fps, of course that will handle any deer out there at iron sighted six gun range with correct shot placement. A bad hit will always be a bad hit. Good luck!
    Also like Crusty Old Coot, when the going gets tough, I use a tough bullet, I've taken 3 elk with the Ruger 45 using an LBT 325 gr slug, all with one shot each, no problem. Match the bullet to the velocity & the intended target.

    Dick
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    sixshot, Thanks for the input their It is a new ,old and only used it once. I wont give up to easy but have had better luck with flat nosed and others. I will try putting more tin in the mix.
    thanks again for the information. Wish me luck.

    Loren

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    Sir, is that Harbor Freight Red PC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixshot View Post
    sharpsguy, so how many deer have you taken with six guns? I've been taking them for 50 years & almost always used solids but in the last few years I've decided to experiment with some HP's. The way I've approached it is to slow them down a bit so I get good expansion & still get penetration & I've done both. The secret is correct alloy & velocity. I've taken probably over 100 deer, 11 elk, moose, bears, antelope, lion, big game is 7 different states including Alaska & Africa & I have a pretty good idea how to make a cast bullet work....trust me! My friends & I have shot HP's through bison, large feral hogs, moose & bears so far.

    Dick
    That is a awsome list of game and experience. I hopefully will get to try handgun hunting for white tail this winter. I plan on using a S&W Mod 19. Just got to get her scoped and dialed in and let the experimenting begin!!!

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    Yes, it is Harbor Freight Red, I use it almost all the time because it has worked well for me. I also use the gloss black sold by Smokes4320, I think it is, good stuff. It's actually a better quality of paint but I've never been able to shoot any difference between the two.
    With good bullets & placement your model 19 will work just fine. I've taken deer with some of mine & also took my Lion with one but the Lion was VERY close!

    Dick

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    Looks like it is a load that works well for you!

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