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Thread: An Historic Mold

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    Boolit Buddy beezapilot's Avatar
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    Nice write up.. thank you
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    I've read something about nickel moulds but can't remember the details, were they Belding & Mull ?

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    Yes, B&M. pure elemental nickel. Rustproof.

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    I'm trying to attach photos of the Belding and Mull Multiple Mold for the Squibb bullet, which is the only one I have ever seen or heard of. It appears to have been made from an Ideal Armory Mold basic frame, which Ideal would have sold you in the early 1920s. I am guessing the initials A.F.P. identify the mold builder, or the mechanic who cherried it. There is a date in the lower right hand corner 1-11-24, which fits squarely into B&M mold production. The targets show some of the accuracy i have obtained recently from a Remington Russian MN and a Savage 99 .303 Savage. Both guns have aperture sights and are one hundred yard groups. I have doubts about the pictures showing up. I'll continue to work at it.Click image for larger version. 

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    Great stuff! Thank you for sharing!
    Looking for Ideal molds 419181 (44 Evans Long) and 375167 (38-72)
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    Just happen to have an original bronze Yankee mould for that design in good condition. The bullets shoot well from it and it drops them out like shelling peas.
    When we were going HP crazy, I had a Lyman 311413 hollow pointed with a .100" cavity. At moderate velocities its good for an inch at 100 yards out of my Number 1 Ruger 06.
    The 413 got its bad name from use in Springfields and too much DCM 4895. The guys weren't cast bullet savy and insisted on running it at near ball load velocities and it failed. Lower the velocity and you've got a very accurate bullet.
    Good write up and I appreciate your sharing it./beagle
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    Very nice history, and cool pic's too!

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    Just now saw your question. The B&M 311169 was the Squibb, later known as Ideal 311413, and picked up and numbered this way by Lyman in about 1925. The
    Belding and Mull 311168 was the Pope bevel-base 308403 clone essentially the same thing with one extra and narrower band. This Mold was also known as the Squibb-Miller.

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    Interesting information thanks for taking the time to share.
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
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