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Thread: 40/85 Ballard Pacific

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    Boolit Master
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    I solved this problem decades ago. I have never owned or even shot a Ballard. When you could buy a very nice one for two hundred dollars, I still passed. A friend of mine cracked the receiver of a factory engraved Ballard with a mild load of 4227 in a 32-40. Bo Clerke bought the rifle, welded the frame, rebarreled it and made it a .22. I think a Ballard loaded with BP blew up a few years ago at the Quickly Shoot. The action just looks weak to me. I feel the same way about the Stevens 44. I do own and shoot the Stevens 44 1/2.
    A GUN THAT'S COCKED AND UNLOADED AIN'T GOOD FOR NUTHIN'........... ROOSTER COGBURN

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    Boolit Mold
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    What about using 2400 or some other slow burning powder like one used for cowboy cartridge shooting?

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    Boolit Mold
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    Still have not shot the .40-85. But what about 18 grains of 2400 Alliant? Seen it happen.

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    in a new, modern 20th or 21st century gun - yeah, smokeless in most any manner of load is almost always no problem, and that can be confirmed by the gun's builder if need be. as stated, at most matches there are plenty of wannabes, er, participants using nothing but smokeless in their replica black powder rifles. no problemo.

    in an original gun that was built in the 19th century, using any manner of smokeless? can you say "pipe bomb"? i don't gamble with my life or the lives of others - don't y'all be shooting next to me or i won't take kindly to ya!

    i'll add - what is this need to use anything but real black powder? particularly at BPcr/tr matches. yeesh.

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    Usa Alliant Black. Much cleaner than real BP but smokes and smells good. Same pressure curve as the real stuff.

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check