I really like my CVA Optima V2 pistol. Extremely accurate, powerful and a hoot to shoot. But sabots aren't cheap even in bulk, nor are jacketed slugs. Don't care for jacketed slugs either. I'm an enthusiastic (thanks to folks here!) reloading caster with a love for the silver stream. If i'm not mistaken, my pistol has a 1 in 28 twist which is faster than most traditional muzzle loader weapons. This pistol has been out for several years now and I wonder if anyone has found a great, accurate cast lead .50 caliber slug that's wonderful in this gun? I prefer not to use a sabot. Thanks. Don.